PAC-12 may have more problems than COVID

[SuperBarrFrog]

They have a right to play or not to play.

Thanks for the clarification. They also have the right to make any demands they want to play. The schools have the right to accept or deny those demands. I imagine, like most negotiations, they will meet in the middle somewhere.

 

[steelfrog]

I continue to head toward sone point in the future where college sports has lost my interest.

steel is with ya. Any sports actually

 

[Hoosierfrog]

ADs should offer to write a recommendation to any school that will agree to their demands.

 

[Palliative Care]

Sports in general has lost my interest. I refuse to be insulted by professional millionaire athletes who take my watching their sports for granted. Now this.... it has been nice fellas but I am no longer playing the fool so they can get rich off me.

 

[SuperBarrFrog]

Sports in general has lost my interest. I refuse to be insulted by professional millionaire athletes who take my watching their sports for granted. Now this.... it has been nice fellas but I am no longer playing the fool so they can get rich off me.

See ya in the gameday threads when football starts back up.

 

[Fosterpark Squatter]

 

[BrewingFrog]

"Well... Bye!"

 

[WyomingFrog]

Awesome !! Kick their sorry buttts off the team and this CRAP will stop dead in its tracks !!

WSU is not infringing at all on their rights. The players have the right to play or not play under the rules set forth by the school and Coach. If they don't like those conditions and rules, just don't play !! Nobody's "rights" are being infringed upon like some of the lefties here on this board want you to believe because they are lefties who have no brains (such as ILLINIFROG, ASLEEP, and SUPERBARFROG on this board).

It is NOT a "right" to play college football. It is a privilege. If you don't want that privilege don't play. Nobody is stepping on anyone else's rights or forcing anyone to play.

Lefties are so galactlcly stupid.

 

[SuperBarrFrog]

Awesome !! Kick their sorry buttts off the team and this CRAP will stop dead in its tracks !!

WSU is not infringing at all on their rights. The players have the right to play or not play under the rules set forth by the school and Coach. If they don't like those conditions and rules, just don't play !! Nobody's "rights" are being infringed upon like some of the lefties here on this board want you to believe because they are lefties who have no brains.

It is NOT a "right" to play college football. It is a privilege. If you don't want that privilege don't play. Nobody is stepping on anyone else's rights or forcing anyone to play.

Lefties are so stupid.

Last I checked WSU is a public institution and likely cannot censor free speech; maybe one of the guys on here with a law degree can give us some insight. Gonna be hilarious to see all the folks who get mad about some racist student getting kicked outta private school for stupid racist tweets but will encourage the schools to kick these students off the football team.

 

[SuperBarrFrog]

Last I checked WSU is a public institution and likely cannot censor free speech; maybe one of guys on here with a law degree can give is some insight. Gonna be hilarious to see all the folks who get mad about some racist student getting kicked outta private school for stupid racist tweets but will encourage the schools to kick these students off the football team.

 

[Hemingway]

Can’t we vote as many times as we want this election? I’ve got people trying to sign me up to vote by mail everyday.


Here we go President Deez Nutz! Number 46

 

[Eight]

don't know much about rolovich other than he is new and came from hawaii

have heard wazzu's athletic department is in big financial problems.

 

[TopFrog]

Opt out? Ok. Pack up, move out and get off campus and best of luck to you.

 

[BABYFACE]

Thanks for the clarification. They also have the right to make any demands they want to play. The schools have the right to accept or deny those demands. I imagine, like most negotiations, they will meet in the middle somewhere.

No. They do not have the right to make demands. They can make them, but not a right. An athletic scholarship is not ongoing negotiation of demands. They either play or they can choose to go elsewhere. That simple.

If it is so undesirable deal, then athletes will not sign a LOI.

 

[BABYFACE]

Last I checked WSU is a public institution and likely cannot censor free speech; maybe one of the guys on here with a law degree can give us some insight. Gonna be hilarious to see all the folks who get mad about some racist student getting kicked outta private school for stupid racist tweets but will encourage the schools to kick these students off the football team.

While they cannot censor free speech, there are team rules and we’re they violated? One can say what ever they want but could face repercussions If egregious. A player at TCU can tell GP to go $&#€ himself and TCU. While that was within free speech, GP will most kick said player off the team.

 

[CountryFrog]

Thanks for the clarification. They also have the right to make any demands they want to play. The schools have the right to accept or deny those demands. I imagine, like most negotiations, they will meet in the middle somewhere.

Negotiations? Is there a players union now in college sports?

I haven't read through this specific list of demands but in general I'm fully on the side of these players being given more benefits. I'm just having a hard time seeing where the players have much leverage to make demands. Certainly as you have said they obviously have the right to ask. I don't think anyone disputes that. When you go from asking to demanding though then that does carry a little extra meaning that may not actually be helpful to them since they don't have a union.

 

[Zubaz]

Negotiations? Is there a players union now in college sports?

I haven't read through this specific list of demands but in general I'm fully on the side of these players being given more benefits. I'm just having a hard time seeing where the players have much leverage to make demands. Certainly as you have said they obviously have the right to ask. I don't think anyone disputes that. When you go from asking to demanding though then that does carry a little extra meaning that may not actually be helpful to them since they don't have a union.

 

[SuperBarrFrog]

Negotiations? Is there a players union now in college sports?

I haven't read through this specific list of demands but in general I'm fully on the side of these players being given more benefits. I'm just having a hard time seeing where the players have much leverage to make demands. Certainly as you have said they obviously have the right to ask. I don't think anyone disputes that. When you go from asking to demanding though then that does carry a little extra meaning that may not actually be helpful to them since they don't have a union.

I would imagine they will be in a union before too long; Northwestern already got the ball rolling on that a few years ago. The player empowerment is moving, it certainly wouldn’t surprise me at all.

 

[SuperBarrFrog]

Opt out? Ok. Pack up, move out and get off campus and best of luck to you.

That’s a great policy if you wanna attract top recruits. No matter how much you guys hate it, most of the demands are totally reasonable and will likely be adopted by major schools. The revenue sharing stuff isn’t gonna happen but everything else seems doable and logical. The times they are a changing.

 

[LVH]

That’s a great policy if you wanna attract top recruits. No matter how much you guys hate it, most of the demands are totally reasonable and will likely be adopted by major schools. The revenue sharing stuff isn’t gonna happen but everything else seems doable and logical. The times they are a changing.

You are missing the point.

You want to opt out of the season for "health concerns" due to COVID? Fine. Do that, but just realize, if you are truly that worried about your safety, you don't get to use the facilities, locker room, weight room, or get to work out with the team.

That's what Washington State is doing. They aren't punishing these players for speaking out. They are saying, if you are not going to participate in this season, we are not going to waste our time and resources on you and let you participate in team activities. That is what is happening here