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Baylor, TCU alike in one way

tcumaniac

Full Member
TCU’s administration once again showing their true colors. Gotta love the “tolerant” left. Well, of course, unless they disagree with you. Then you’re just a racist, hitler loving, bigoted, white supremacist. So intellectually lazy and dishonest.

Anyway, for those of you that aren’t woefully misinformed and delusional, here’s a link to sign a petition against TCU’s decision to deny TPUSA:

https://www.change.org/p/student-or...tm_source=petition_signer_receipt&utm_term=cs
 

LVH

Active Member
My goodness:

1. White Supremecists;

2. The Alt-Right;

3. Racism;

4. Hitler?

What a great group to let on campus to spread their poison among our student population?

Heck, might as well invite the other far right and far left onto our campuses.

Take your hate and go to Liberty University where I know they'd love to have you and your Thursday night Cross Burning and Bible Study Group.

Typical resort of a left wing liberal - attempt to discredit and marginalize what you don't agree with by calling it racist, white supremacist, etc.
 

TCUdirtbag

Active Member
TCU’s administration once again showing their true colors. Gotta love the “tolerant” left. Well, of course, unless they disagree with you. Then you’re just a racist, hitler loving, bigoted, white supremacist. So intellectually lazy and dishonest.

Anyway, for those of you that aren’t woefully misinformed and delusional, here’s a link to sign a petition against TCU’s decision to deny TPUSA:

https://www.change.org/p/student-organization-s-at-tcu-grant-tpusa-chapter-at-tcu-rso-status-ec8783ef-1ddb-4a8a-84a9-318d18518ff1?cs_tk=Au4UUR4f5I42Cin3oF4AAXicyyvNyQEABF8BvK4K2LCLUP5UzyvLHM_f-sA=&utm_campaign=92f24587bf764a8085dfac1a233c13a5&utm_content=initial_v0_1_1&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_signer_receipt&utm_term=cs

Ah, hook line and sinker.

you don’t event know if the org—that purportedly started the process to receive official recognition in January—actually did the paperwork and checked the required boxes to receive university recognition. instead you just accepted that a national group with a playbook of creating news stories on campuses came in and was victimized by administration. and then got all worked up about it.

maybe the school is a bad actor here. but you really have no reason to know that.

a quick look at the list of university-recognized student organizations shows recognized chapters of:
- college republicans
- young Americans for freedom
- young Americans for liberty
- college democrats
- democratic socialists of America
https://engage.tcu.edu/organizations
This list sure doesn’t point toward bias.
 
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4 Oaks Frog

Active Member
Hey, I have no problem with TCU sponsoring forums and allowing their hate group spokes person on campus to give a presentation, debate, show flash cards, power points, etc.

TCU had David Duke speak as well as far left figures.

University means universal thought. Each TCU student should have his/her belief system challenged every day they are on our campus.

I think our student body is bright enough to know intellectual dishonesty when it crawls out of the woodwork.

It is another thing to officially make it part of our TCU community.

That is the difference.

If you want to form a hate group, have at it.

But don't ask TCU to provide a physical building, HVAC, and the table and chairs to do it.
Just curious, who is this evil right wing hate group you keep referring to?
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BEAT EVERYBODY!
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tcumaniac

Full Member
Ah, hook line and sinker.

you don’t event know if the org—that purportedly started the process to receive official recognition in January—actually did the paperwork and checked the required boxes to receive university recognition. instead you just accepted that a national group with a playbook of creating news stories on campuses came in and was victimized by administration. and then got all worked up about it.

maybe the school is a bad actor here. but you really have no reason to know that.

a quick look at the list of university-recognized student organizations shows recognized chapters of:
- college republicans
- young Americans for freedom
- young Americans for liberty
- college democrats
- democratic socialists of America
https://engage.tcu.edu/organizations
This list sure doesn’t point toward bias.
Wrong.

My wife, who started the Young Americans for Freedom chapter while she was at TCU, reached out to the student, Lauren, a few days ago asking for an explanation as to what is going on. Sounds like TCU is grasping for straws in regards to their reasoning.

Here is the explanation from Lauren:

“Their reasoning was pretty vague. I emailed our student activity’s lady and asked about an appeals process. The explanation was the same when I asked for it further... in fact, Baylor’s reasons for denial of TPUSA are VERY similar to those that TCU is using. I’ll send you a copy of TCU’s rejection letter. I already got interviewed by BriteBart news with the full story. TCU is not wanting to approve us because they claim we have other conservative groups on campus that satisfy enough, (2 of which don’t do anything) and College Republicans is it’s own deal with local politics & rallying/ endorsing candidates, while TPUSA doesn’t do that. TCU also claimed that we violated their policy by having TCU on the TPUSA website. I told them I’d fix it immediately and we got it erased the day they brought it to my attention. BUT they still used it against us despite me being polite and respectful and delivering a prompt solution.

We have a large amount of support from TX college republicans and our own college republicans chapter. We have several students interested and I did the entire process of approving the club to a T. They dragged out a 3 week process to nearly an entire semester as we only have 2 more weeks left... & still ultimately denied us.

The sustainability aspect is also another generic reason Baylor played on as well. The claim is that it won’t survive past a year once I graduate. The entire point of a club is to start it, expand it, build a base by being approved and spreading the word, and passing the torch of leadership. Which MANY students of all classes have expressed to me interest in leading it in the future. Of which I’ve communicated with TCU at every single meeting.”
 

Pharm Frog

Full Member
Ah, hook line and sinker.

you don’t event know if the org—that purportedly started the process to receive official recognition in January—actually did the paperwork and checked the required boxes to receive university recognition. instead you just accepted that a national group with a playbook of creating news stories on campuses came in and was victimized by administration. and then got all worked up about it.

maybe the school is a bad actor here. but you really have no reason to know that.

a quick look at the list of university-recognized student organizations shows recognized chapters of:
- college republicans
- young Americans for freedom
- young Americans for liberty
- college democrats
- democratic socialists of America
https://engage.tcu.edu/organizations
This list sure doesn’t point toward bias.

They did enough to be denied for reasons of “sustainability” and because the Student Organizations office felt like it didn’t “meet a broadly recognized need that is not currently being met....”. I’d suggest that incomplete application was not an issue here.
 

Showtime Joe 2.0

Active Member
Do all law schools require students to brand a capital D on their forehead before receiving their diploma? This is less about ideology and more about politics.

Well, when I was at Harvard Law School, I was vice president of the Federalist Society and an officer in the Harvard Law School Republicans. Membership in our groups was small but I knew a lot of conservative students who preferred to remain in the "closet" to avoid social opprobrium. During election years, I was one of only five or ten students out of a student body of 1,500 who openly wore Republican campaign buttons on campus whereas literally hundreds of students wore Democratic buttons. And yet, shortly before graduation, I was elected one of seven Permanent Class Representatives along with two other "out" conservatives. (Of course, personal popularity may have played a role in that election as I had the support of a vocal contingent known as "Liberals for Joe"!)
 

Horny4TCU

Active Member
My goodness:

1. White Supremecists;

2. The Alt-Right;

3. Racism;

4. Hitler?

What a great group to let on campus to spread their poison among our student population?

Heck, might as well invite the other far right and far left onto our campuses.

Take your hate and go to Liberty University where I know they'd love to have you and your Thursday night Cross Burning and Bible Study Group.
Now I know who this guy is....

200.webp
 

East Coast

Tier 1
I had never heard of Turning Point until today. The ADL lists Turning Point as the following:
An Ultra Conservative student organization whose mission statement is to “identify educate, train, and organize students to promote the principles of freedom, free markets, and limited government.”
I have no problems with this mission statement. The problems are the actual statements coming out of it's leaders and students affiliated with the organization. The worst offender by far is Candace Owens. It well documented that she has defended Hitler as a "globalist, not a nationalist", (she has since somewhat backed off of the original statement), that the KKK was just one of those mirages, and not dangerous, and that black Americans are worse off economically than they were under Jim Crow. (I have never heard anyone else say this). Candace Owens is black.

The other biggest issue are the racist remarks and hate speech coming from many of the students that belong to the organization. The organization has a "hit list" of professors that it considers too liberal.

Bottom line, the ADL believes that while the group has managed to keep from being directly attached to the some of the white extremist groups, that the group behaves like a hate group. Interestingly, it has a fair number of black members, but seems to concentrate it's hate activities against all Middle Eastern Peoples (whether Jewish or Muslim or Christian doesn't matter) and Latinos.

Maybe TCU has a point?
 

TCUdirtbag

Active Member
Wrong.

My wife, who started the Young Americans for Freedom chapter while she was at TCU, reached out to the student, Lauren, a few days ago asking for an explanation as to what is going on. Sounds like TCU is grasping for straws in regards to their reasoning.

Here is the explanation from Lauren:

“Their reasoning was pretty vague. I emailed our student activity’s lady and asked about an appeals process. The explanation was the same when I asked for it further... in fact, Baylor’s reasons for denial of TPUSA are VERY similar to those that TCU is using. I’ll send you a copy of TCU’s rejection letter. I already got interviewed by BriteBart news with the full story. TCU is not wanting to approve us because they claim we have other conservative groups on campus that satisfy enough, (2 of which don’t do anything) and College Republicans is it’s own deal with local politics & rallying/ endorsing candidates, while TPUSA doesn’t do that. TCU also claimed that we violated their policy by having TCU on the TPUSA website. I told them I’d fix it immediately and we got it erased the day they brought it to my attention. BUT they still used it against us despite me being polite and respectful and delivering a prompt solution.

We have a large amount of support from TX college republicans and our own college republicans chapter. We have several students interested and I did the entire process of approving the club to a T. They dragged out a 3 week process to nearly an entire semester as we only have 2 more weeks left... & still ultimately denied us.

The sustainability aspect is also another generic reason Baylor played on as well. The claim is that it won’t survive past a year once I graduate. The entire point of a club is to start it, expand it, build a base by being approved and spreading the word, and passing the torch of leadership. Which MANY students of all classes have expressed to me interest in leading it in the future. Of which I’ve communicated with TCU at every single meeting.”

So again, you’re still basing your opinion on what one (biased) person said.

Let's take your wife's friend's biased perspective as the accurate and whole set of facts. Okay. We'll set aside the fact that TCU isn't a state actor. There is a clear policy on student organizations recognition. All you have to do is comply with it. The point isn't to be able to create a recognized student group on a whim. Why? Your club doesn't need university recognition unless it wants access to university resources. If you want to talk about university waste, let's talk about student groups created on a whim that gobble up limited resources. The purpose of demonstrating sustainability is to balance the benefit of investment of university resource in student activities/development with avoiding waste (i.e. is the addition of this student group beneficial enough to justify allocation of university resources). Most student groups take 12-18+ months to get recognized for this very reason. So in the rather unlikely scenario this second-hand biased perspective is the entire fact set, it would still be reasonable to expect more than a half-semester on-campus presence in the middle of a pandemic to get the group recognized. And to be clear, the decision in no way limits the group's ability to organize events, solicit student participation, etc.
 
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TCUdirtbag

Active Member
maniac just schooled dirtbag

Lol. I am 100% confident I know more about this situation than maniac. Posting a quote from the same person quoted in the news stories doesn't make the perspective any less biased, or the analysis in less incomplete.
 
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