Horned Frog Basketball v OU

[CountryFrog]

Well the holes in the roster are the first problem that the coach is accountable for....

Obviously, but it's unrealistic to think that we're never going to have any holes in the roster. The program is in a better spot than it was 4 years ago. This was a down year, but this down year would've been our best team in a very long time pre-Dixon.

 

[Pure Purple]

Ability, preparedness or a combination of both?. Tonight's performance appears to exemplify

a dilemma that has continued to confront this program throughout this season.

 

[jake102]

Obviously, but it's unrealistic to think that we're never going to have any holes in the roster. The program is in a better spot than it was 4 years ago. This was a down year, but this down year would've been our best team in a very long time pre-Dixon.

What happens when we go 3-15 next season?

 

[CountryFrog]

I am a longtime season ticket holder and a longtime member of this board. I'm a regular reader, but rarely post as I think I would regret posting when I am so upset after another pathetic game. The regular season is over and this game was the icing on the cake for this pathetic program.

I've been watching TCU basketball since my freshman year in 1970. We used to have excuses.....crummy old arena and lack of financial commitment by the university. Yet, we somehow managed to have a very competitive program.
Now we have a beautiful arena and pay the coaches decent money....and have nothing to show for it.

Yes, the NIT was cool and so was the one and done NCAA appearance 2 years ago. These last two seasons have been some of the worst-coached basketball I have ever seen. The turnovers, poor free throw performance, erratic scoring, massive blowout losses, lack of a coherent strategy......it just goes on and on. To be sure, I am not expert on basketball, but I often attend with people who have played college basketball and they just politely shake their heads as to what we are trying to do on the floor.

Oh yes, we get teased with an upset win once or twice a year (kind of a "lightning in a bottle" sort of game), but the results are still the same at the end of the season.
I'm not living in some dream world that we will be at KU's level, but I do expect to be in the hunt....and I definitely expect general improvement in fundamentals over the season. Can we not enjoy success as much as BU or Tech? Is that really asking too much?

I was excited when we hired Dixon (one of our great alums and a key player in the Killingsworth era) and thought we were on our way after the first 2 years, but these last two seasons have been awful. I know the statisticians on this board will jump all over me....proving how I am wrong with this assessment. So if you want to blow me out of the water with some esoteric stats, fire away, but I am only interested in the won-loss column and the general direction of the program....and that ain't good.

I can't be the only one thinking this way as I cannot even give my tickets away to fellow Frog Fans (and I refuse to give or sell them to opposing fans). So, I guess the silver-lining is that I have an opportunity to give my tickets to the veterans on TCU's website when I can't make it to the game. Thanks Donati for instituting that policy.

I am not advocating for firing Dixon, but it appears he has lost his mojo. I have no idea why, but this is not the same guy we thought we had hired. Maybe the UCLA job was his dream job and we are just re-living the Pat Sullivan/LSU debacle.

Other than blind loyalty to TCU, it is really getting difficult to find a reason to renew my tickets next year.

I have a hard time believing there is much truth in this but it's a nice story. There's just no way anyone who has seen 50 years of mostly awful TCU basketball would say that THIS is the season that's unacceptable.

 

[CountryFrog]

What happens when we go 3-15 next season?

Are you still beating your wife?

 

[Wexahu]

Obviously, but it's unrealistic to think that we're never going to have any holes in the roster. The program is in a better spot than it was 4 years ago. This was a down year, but this down year would've been our best team in a very long time pre-Dixon.

You continually wanting to use pre-DMC renovation TCU and a time when we were paying our coaches about a third of what we do now as the bar that the program should be judged on is odd to me.

I couldn’t care less right now what our records were under Jim Christian or when we were playing in a crap arena and even a high school gym for a year. If an athletic dept pumps a bunch of money and resources into a program they should expect and demand better results than just being better than when hardly anyone cared.

 

[4th. down]

What happens when we go 3-15 next season?

Damn, this was a gut shot. No way to explain or rationalize it. Just general overall stupidity beginning with Jamie.

The most popular question we have now is who is going to replace Bane's points? I will answer that for us, NO ONE.

 

[Frog Wild]

I am not advocating for firing Dixon, but it appears he has lost his mojo.

I think JD has just given us the best four years in TCU BB history.
But I do wonder how many teams in the Big 12 would trade their coach for JD?

 

[CountryFrog]

You continually wanting to use pre-DMC renovation TCU and a time when we were paying our coaches about a third of what we do now as the bar that the program should be judged on is odd to me.

I couldn’t care less right now what our records were under Jim Christian or when we were playing in a crap arena and even a high school gym for a year. If an athletic dept pumps a bunch of money and resources into a program they should expect and demand better results than just being better than when hardly anyone cared.

I get it. You hate Dixon and think the program is terrible.

 

[TRF51]

You're worried about seeding in the NIT?

Yes I am. I would love to have a home game or two. This team is hot garbage on the road.

 

[jake102]

Are you still beating your wife?

Nice

 

[CountryFrog]

Nice

It's not a literal question btw. It's a retort when someone poses a question where any answer is an admission to the guilt supposed by the question itself.

I.e. what happens when we go 3-15 next year.

You may know that, I just don't want people thinking I go around blindly accusing other people of domestic violence.

 

[Pharm Frog]

If anybody that’s not a player or coach has trouble sleeping tonight after this loss and the loss of an hour, that’s more embarrassing than anything that happened on the court. Cmon people...that was amazingly entertaining and apropos. Simply could not have scripted anything more appropriate. And still it’s completely meaningless.

 

[CountryFrog]

If anybody that’s not a player or coach has trouble sleeping tonight after this loss and the loss of an hour, that’s more embarrassing than anything that happened on the court. Cmon people...that was amazingly entertaining and apropos. Simply could not have scripted anything more appropriate. And still it’s completely meaningless.

How does this work in combination with the baseball win? If I lose sleep due to a bad loss am I able to gain any of that back with a big win? Or is it a one way street? Sleep can only be lost and never gained.

 

[Wexahu]

If anybody that’s not a player or coach has trouble sleeping tonight after this loss and the loss of an hour, that’s more embarrassing than anything that happened on the court. Cmon people...that was amazingly entertaining and apropos. Simply could not have scripted anything more appropriate. And still it’s completely meaningless.

I’m gonna sleep like [ Finebaum ] tonight. But that’s every night. I suck at sleeping.

 

[Farmfrog]

Probably need to consider firing Dixon. I don’t think we should, but these type of situations are inexcusable

Next year is going to be a disaster. I thought this year would be tough, but I don’t see any light in the tunnel. If Samuel leaves our floor is 0 wins in Big 12 and our ceiling is probably two wins

This post is a big reason we can’t have anything nice. The stupid hyperbole in this post is staggering. You, Genbukan and nrh should go directly to ADJD and tell him to shut the program down because we’re not a top 3 team in the league.

I firmly believe there are people on this board who wouldn’t know a basketball from a pumpkin. I just don’t understand why so called TCU fans do nothing but whine, complain and do nothing but downgrade your team.

 

[Farmfrog]

What happens when we go 3-15 next season?

Weren’t you the jerk that said we weren’t going to win more than a couple of games this season? Your prognostications have no merit.

 

[BleedNPurple]

I am a longtime season ticket holder and a longtime member of this board. I'm a regular reader, but rarely post as I think I would regret posting when I am so upset after another pathetic game. The regular season is over and this game was the icing on the cake for this pathetic program.

I've been watching TCU basketball since my freshman year in 1970. We used to have excuses.....crummy old arena and lack of financial commitment by the university. Yet, we somehow managed to have a very competitive program.
Now we have a beautiful arena and pay the coaches decent money....and have nothing to show for it.

Yes, the NIT was cool and so was the one and done NCAA appearance 2 years ago. These last two seasons have been some of the worst-coached basketball I have ever seen. The turnovers, poor free throw performance, erratic scoring, massive blowout losses, lack of a coherent strategy......it just goes on and on. To be sure, I am not expert on basketball, but I often attend with people who have played college basketball and they just politely shake their heads as to what we are trying to do on the floor.

Oh yes, we get teased with an upset win once or twice a year (kind of a "lightning in a bottle" sort of game), but the results are still the same at the end of the season.
I'm not living in some dream world that we will be at KU's level, but I do expect to be in the hunt....and I definitely expect general improvement in fundamentals over the season. Can we not enjoy success as much as BU or Tech? Is that really asking too much?

I was excited when we hired Dixon (one of our great alums and a key player in the Killingsworth era) and thought we were on our way after the first 2 years, but these last two seasons have been awful. I know the statisticians on this board will jump all over me....proving how I am wrong with this assessment. So if you want to blow me out of the water with some esoteric stats, fire away, but I am only interested in the won-loss column and the general direction of the program....and that ain't good.

I can't be the only one thinking this way as I cannot even give my tickets away to fellow Frog Fans (and I refuse to give or sell them to opposing fans). So, I guess the silver-lining is that I have an opportunity to give my tickets to the veterans on TCU's website when I can't make it to the game. Thanks Donati for instituting that policy.

I am not advocating for firing Dixon, but it appears he has lost his mojo. I have no idea why, but this is not the same guy we thought we had hired. Maybe the UCLA job was his dream job and we are just re-living the Pat Sullivan/LSU debacle.

Other than blind loyalty to TCU, it is really getting difficult to find a reason to renew my tickets next year.

I’m not renewing my football tickets mainly because no matter what I do I can’t make more than 2 games a year. Good bye Sky Box.

I’ll keep my basketball. I hope we have players line Reeves coming - thank you Bane. Tomorrow is another year!

 

[Genbukan]

I have a hard time believing there is much truth in this but it's a nice story. There's just no way anyone who has seen 50 years of mostly awful TCU basketball would say that THIS is the season that's unacceptable.

This team does less with more. There is talent on this team as evidenced by with wins vs. Bu, tech, wvu. That's why the losses like this one are harder to take than the years we have not had as much talent.

I've been watching frog hoops since Goo Kennedy, Simpson DeGrate, Evans and Lynn Royal, Herb Stevens and all the rest. I agree with this poster. The sloppy play and mental mistakes are what drives fans like us away.

Doesn't matter. Long term season ticket holders eventually give up their tickets. Sooner or later new fans will scoop them up. Its just how long it will take.

CJD's tenure seemed to do a 180 since the Hawaii trip in Dec of 2018. I don't know what happened but the program has not felt the same.

 

[CountryFrog]

This team does less with more. There is talent on this team as evidenced by with wins vs. Bu, tech, wvu. That's why the losses like this one are harder to take than the years we have not had as much talent.

I've been watching frog hoops since Goo Kennedy, Simpson DeGrate, Evans and Lynn Royal, Herb Stevens and all the rest. I agree with this poster. The sloppy play and mental mistakes are what drives fans like us away.

Doesn't matter. Long term season ticket holders eventually give up their tickets. Sooner or later new fans will scoop them up. Its just how long it will take.

CJD's tenure seemed to do a 180 since the Hawaii trip in Dec of 2018. I don't know what happened but the program has not felt the same.

It's one thing for people to be upset with Dixon for the lack of talent on the team. I think that argument lacks a ton of perspective but there is at least some truth in it.

Anyone who thinks we UNDERPERFORMED with the talent on this year's team, though, is just totally clueless. As is anyone who thinks sloppy basketball and mental mistakes are unique to TCU in college basketball.