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Ranking the schools after Conference Realignment

Eight

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Since we have an official realignment thread, would love to see Central Florida and USF in the big 12. I know they haven’t been around long but UCF seems to have it figured out. They look like a TCU program 10 years ago.

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Casey T

Full Member
Realignment will probably bring 4 super conferences of 16 teams each. One of these 3 (ACC, PAC 12 and BIG 12) will disappear. Based on prior actions (no expansion, willingness of Texas to jump, related greed of the teams) I'm afraid it will be the BIG 12 and not all of the current members will be invited to those other leagues.

lol, go back to the espn comment sections.

Or Buzzfeed might be a good spot too
 

LeagueCityFrog

Active Member
There is discussion out there about the coming new TV deals the Big Ten and Pac 12 conferences are currently being worked on.

New TV Deal effective year:
Big Ten: 2022
Pac-12: 2023
Big XII: 2024
SEC: 2033
ACC: 2036

As a fan and a business person, I think now would be a good time to have Chris Del Conte and our burnt orange "friends" and an OU contingent go kick the tires over at Colorado and Arkansas and see if they both don't want to come home.

With OU regularly going to the CFP and Texas being "back", I don't think UT and OU are going anywhere post 2024 because they know this Big XII conference seems to have an edge over the Pac 12 to get one of the four golden CFP tickets. I would like to see the Big XII go back to twelve teams and put two contingent state schools back in our mix. Colorado makes less money in the Pac 12 now than they would have sticking with Big XII. Arkansas was a long standing member of the Southwest Conference and does not even sniff championships in the SEC. We could make the money a non-issue for Arkansas if they came back.

As a fan, I would enjoy playing away games in Boulder and Fayetteville. We had a great time visiting Arkansas when we beat them there 3 years ago.

If Arkansas says no, I would go for Arizona State and the Pac 12 can go back to being the Pac 10 and no one will care.

https://cronkitenews.azpbs.org/2019/10/29/pac-12-network-future/
 

Froginbedford

Full Member
There is discussion out there about the coming new TV deals the Big Ten and Pac 12 conferences are currently being worked on.

New TV Deal effective year:
Big Ten: 2022
Pac-12: 2023
Big XII: 2024
SEC: 2033
ACC: 2036

As a fan and a business person, I think now would be a good time to have Chris Del Conte and our burnt orange "friends" and an OU contingent go kick the tires over at Colorado and Arkansas and see if they both don't want to come home.

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Missouri instead of Colorado...contiguous to Iowa State and the Kansas schools, shares border with Oklahoma and keeps the Big 12 basically a Great Plains, mid-continent conference with isolated West Virginia being the only literal outlier....
 

LeagueCityFrog

Active Member
My vote

Big XII North
OU, OSU, KU, KSU, ISU, WVU

Big XII South
UT, TCU, BU, TTU, CU, Arkansas

Arkansas says no, then Arizona State

Optional permanent cross over. I would pick K-State. Great fans, nice stadium, winnable away game, easy and inexpensive flights to KC. The annual Purple Bowl.
 

PurpleBlood87

Active Member
Since we have an official realignment thread, would love to see Central Florida and USF in the big 12. I know they haven’t been around long but UCF seems to have it figured out. They look like a TCU program 10 years ago.

I'll pass on splitting the Big 12 money with them. More members less money to go around. Plus UCF should only be allowed to join only if they eliminated their stupid claim to winning a national championship.
 

LeagueCityFrog

Active Member
Big XII would only take another current Power 5 school. I wonder who the SEC would add if they lost Arkansas. Virginia Tech would be my guess and then the ACC may either force Notre Dame to become a full member or look at UConn.
 

westoverhillbilly

Active Member
I've told Arky friends of my son's (who attended there) that they would be so much better off in the B12 and that they like being the wimp in the neighborhood who runs around with a couple of tough guys.. Now, I'm so sure we want them- the whole state won't bring any additional exposure, they suck bad and have for a good while, and they could eat into our recruiting base if added.. I say let them suffer in their misery..
 

Bizarro Frog

Active Member
Wonder what will happen when Satellite and Cable are virtually dead when most everyone cuts the cord. I don’t expect many people outside the heart of SEC and ACC country are going to pay to stream those channels. I would expect revenue to drop sharply but I could be wrong.
 

JogginFrog

Active Member
Colorado ought to be a no-brainer. Better money, better travel, more visiting fans. Its administration and faculty congress is the barrier. They barely tolerate athletics at all--remarkable that Rick George (former Texas Rangers exec) has managed to build a decent program in Boulder.

The faculty objection to the Big 12 is the academic reputation of its institutions. The CU faculty would rather forego conference revenue, visitor revenue, and travel savings to be aligned with UCLA, USC, Berkeley and Stanford. The Big 12 is viewed as academic slumming.

I still think they could be persuaded, though, if an invitation came with an ultimatum that the Big 12 would extend an invite to Colorado State if Colorado declined. The idea of CSU gaining Power 5 status would be viewed as a real threat in Boulder, and would put pressure on the admin/faculty to consider how much of a better financial deal the Big 12 would be.
 

CountryFrog

Active Member
Colorado ought to be a no-brainer. Better money, better travel, more visiting fans. Its administration and faculty congress is the barrier. They barely tolerate athletics at all--remarkable that Rick George (former Texas Rangers exec) has managed to build a decent program in Boulder.

The faculty objection to the Big 12 is the academic reputation of its institutions. The CU faculty would rather forego conference revenue, visitor revenue, and travel savings to be aligned with UCLA, USC, Berkeley and Stanford. The Big 12 is viewed as academic slumming.

I still think they could be persuaded, though, if an invitation came with an ultimatum that the Big 12 would extend an invite to Colorado State if Colorado declined. The idea of CSU gaining Power 5 status would be viewed as a real threat in Boulder, and would put pressure on the admin/faculty to consider how much of a better financial deal the Big 12 would be.
I highly doubt many CU people care what conference CSU is in. I think their answer to that ultimatum would be "go for it and enjoy Fort Collins."
 

HG73

Active Member
No SEC team will ever come to the Big12. Ever.

What I don't understand is, why PAC & ACC teams aren't lined up at the Big12's door to get in? Better TV contract and keep your own tier 3 money. Tier 3 money would be huge at a place like Colorado or Arizona State. Or Clemson or Florida State. They are literally leaving $10million per year on the table.
 
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