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TCU vs USC @ Dickies Arena

CountryFrog

Active Member
I think USC had about a 14 minute stretch in the first half where they didn't attempt a shot from outside the restricted area.

Then in the second half the younger white ref decided that jumping, standing, and running would all be illegal for TCU defensively.

If this team is going to have any chance to win more than 2-3 games in the conference then we're either going to have to play much better defense or start making more 3s. I'm not sure how likely either of those things are. I wish Bane would just start taking 20-25 shots every game but for whatever reason he continues to disappear for long stretches.
 

Skip Jansen

Active Member
I genuinely think we will be alright. I like that as a wake up call/bar. USC is very very talented. We shot rather poorly but battled all the way. Seemed to have the bad end of the officiating tonight too. We will be fine. Expected 1-2 losses. Now we just must win out our non conference.

Dont fret. Still figuring this rotation out. Serious.

Agreed. Playing rotation is not where it needs to be or will be.

I think there were a lot of positives to take from the game.

Obviously, the effort in the 2nd half was really good. Also, good to see Smith play like he did. I hope tonight becomes the standard for how he plays going forward. He needs to be on the floor because he gives the Frogs- scoring, rebounding, assists, and steals, and some size.

The biggest takeaway for me though is this team learned they can play well when the opponent takes Des out of the game. Unfortunately, it took them until the 2nd half to realize it.
 

SuperTFrog

Active Member
I think USC had about a 14 minute stretch in the first half where they didn't attempt a shot from outside the restricted area.

Then in the second half the younger white ref decided that jumping, standing, and running would all be illegal for TCU defensively.

If this team is going to have any chance to win more than 2-3 games in the conference then we're either going to have to play much better defense or start making more 3s. I'm not sure how likely either of those things are. I wish Bane would just start taking 20-25 shots every game but for whatever reason he continues to disappear for long stretches.
#2 gave the big 12 teams the play book on Bane. Deny the pass on the perimeter to Bane and he is rendered pretty ineffective. He wasn’t able to create his own shot against that guy all night. Without that, we are going to struggle.
 

4th. down

Active Member
Agreed. Playing rotation is not where it needs to be or will be.

I think there were a lot of positives to take from the game.

Obviously, the effort in the 2nd half was really good. Also, good to see Smith play like he did. I hope tonight becomes the standard for how he plays going forward. He needs to be on the floor because he gives the Frogs- scoring, rebounding, assists, and steals, and some size.

The biggest takeaway for me though is this team learned they can play well when the opponent takes Des out of the game. Unfortunately, it took them until the 2nd half to realize it.

We were uninspired the 1st. half for whatever reason and it cost us the game.
Sure Samuel missed the free throw but should it have come down to that? He is only hitting 28% at the line. incredible.

USC is extremely talented, way more than we are with 4, 4* players and 2, 5* (247Sports) on the team. Jamie is working his ass off. We are not even close to USC's overall talent, but there we were with the chance to win, being down 18 pts. Per 247Sports, we have 2, 4*. He's on his way to developing a ragtag team into a contender and it will show up next year, but this year is going to be with huge growing pains, but the future looks good.
 

Francis Xav

Active Member
We were uninspired the 1st. half for whatever reason and it cost us the game.
Sure Samuel missed the free throw but should it have come down to that? He is only hitting 28% at the line. incredible.

USC is extremely talented, way more than we are with 4, 4* players and 2, 5* (247Sports) on the team. Jamie is working his ass off. We are not even close to USC's overall talent, but there we were with the chance to win, being down 18 pts. Per 247Sports, we have 2, 4*. He's on his way to developing a ragtag team into a contender and it will show up next year, but this year is going to be with huge growing pains, but the future looks good.
I wouldnt say too far off. We have. Talented players. Their bigs are good though. We have alot of 4 stars
 

Bill Bozeat

Active Member
Agreed. Playing rotation is not where it needs to be or will be.

I think there were a lot of positives to take from the game.

Obviously, the effort in the 2nd half was really good. Also, good to see Smith play like he did. I hope tonight becomes the standard for how he plays going forward. He needs to be on the floor because he gives the Frogs- scoring, rebounding, assists, and steals, and some size.

The biggest takeaway for me though is this team learned they can play well when the opponent takes Des out of the game. Unfortunately, it took them until the 2nd half to realize it.
#2 torched Bane the whole game for 20 pts At the end Smith picks him on D and his first move Smith steals ball. Farabello runs the sets much better than Dennis. Dennis has great energy and can score So your right still work to be done on rotations
 

CountryFrog

Active Member
Agreed. Playing rotation is not where it needs to be or will be.

I think there were a lot of positives to take from the game.

Obviously, the effort in the 2nd half was really good. Also, good to see Smith play like he did. I hope tonight becomes the standard for how he plays going forward. He needs to be on the floor because he gives the Frogs- scoring, rebounding, assists, and steals, and some size.

The biggest takeaway for me though is this team learned they can play well when the opponent takes Des out of the game. Unfortunately, it took them until the 2nd half to realize it.
I wish I could be as positive as you about the team. Maybe I'm just beat down from football season.
 

CountryFrog

Active Member
#2 gave the big 12 teams the play book on Bane. Deny the pass on the perimeter to Bane and he is rendered pretty ineffective. He wasn’t able to create his own shot against that guy all night. Without that, we are going to struggle.
I don't think there's any "book" on taking Bane out of the game. It happens so frequently that I think it's just a natural part of our offense at this point.
 

CountryFrog

Active Member
We were uninspired the 1st. half for whatever reason and it cost us the game.
Sure Samuel missed the free throw but should it have come down to that? He is only hitting 28% at the line. incredible.

USC is extremely talented, way more than we are with 4, 4* players and 2, 5* (247Sports) on the team. Jamie is working his ass off. We are not even close to USC's overall talent, but there we were with the chance to win, being down 18 pts. Per 247Sports, we have 2, 4*. He's on his way to developing a ragtag team into a contender and it will show up next year, but this year is going to be with huge growing pains, but the future looks good.
I'm not buying this at all. These recruiting rankings you reference were true last year too and we beat these guys by 40. Regardless of recruit rankings we just don't seem to have enough guys who can knock down shots and we're still highly inconsistent on defense. I don't think either of those things have much to do with the difference in recruiting stars.
 

Eight

Member
I don't think there's any "book" on taking Bane out of the game. It happens so frequently that I think it's just a natural part of our offense at this point.

what was the old joke about who was the only man to hold michael jordan to under 20 points?

with des the first answer is des and from there i guess it is split between this offense and his teammates

the shots per minutes for some of his teammates struggling to shoot 40% from the floor and 30% from three is a bit imbalanced to me compared to the shots taken by bane and grayer
 

4th. down

Active Member
I'm not buying this at all. These recruiting rankings you reference were true last year too and we beat these guys by 40. Regardless of recruit rankings we just don't seem to have enough guys who can knock down shots and we're still highly inconsistent on defense. I don't think either of those things have much to do with the difference in recruiting stars.

Well country, not agreeing or really disagreeing - rankings are rankings, take them or leave them.
 

Eight

Member
Well country, not agreeing or really disagreeing - rankings are rankings, take them or leave them.

correct me if i am wrong, but are these the same rankings that had archie as one of the most highly regarded recruits in tcu basketball history and then we have an insider so to speak tell us archie transferred because he wasn't skilled enough to play at this level.

talent is important as is height and skills such as shooting
 

Froginbedford

Full Member
I think USC had about a 14 minute stretch in the first half where they didn't attempt a shot from outside the restricted area.

Then in the second half the younger white ref decided that jumping, standing, and running would all be illegal for TCU defensively.

If this team is going to have any chance to win more than 2-3 games in the conference then we're either going to have to play much better defense or start making more 3s. I'm not sure how likely either of those things are. I wish Bane would just start taking 20-25 shots every game but for whatever reason he continues to disappear for long stretches.

Remember that the Frogs have been predicted to finish in last place....
 

CountryFrog

Active Member
Remember that the Frogs have been predicted to finish in last place....
I think the projections were more based on the fact that we had basically a completely new team and there was absolutely no way for anyone to really be able to project anything. So we became 10th by default. We may well finish 10th. We shall see. I was hoping for better but my hope is gradually fading.
 
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