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Why TCU loses nearly every recruiting battle vs UT, OU, A$M, LSU, BAMA, GEORGIA, etc

Hoosierfrog

Tier 1
I'd be careful talking too much about Houston sports... might offend our friend Eight. He almost lost it on me when I said I'd be ecstatic if the Frogs had a comparative season this year to the Texans last year (won Division, made playoffs).
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OmniscienceFrog

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Lets get real here. Frogs just lost a very highly ranked Safety recruit Jerrin) to UT and is about to lose a WR recruit to UT also (Quinton). Both were thought to be leaning TCU at one time.
When up against UT and other big schools TCU very rarely wins. Even when discussing DEs whereby TCU just put 2 of them into the NFL. You will immediately scream “WHAT ABOUT SYLVESTER YOU DOPE”. You may be interested to know that Sylvester is seriously considering his options - I’ll leave it at that.

Why would a DE not come to TCU ? Why would a Safety not pick TCU ? Why would a OLINEMAN not be standing in line to get into TCU with all the recent OLINEMEN TCU has sent to the League ?

HERE IS THE ANSWER FOLKS :

1) when recruits visit UT, OU, LSU, A$M, etc and ten visit tiny little TCU the Frog program appears very small time in comparison. Small stadium, small campus, small student body. Everything at TCU screams “small time”. You can’t fool Mother Nature and you can’t fool recruits. TCU is small and everything about TCU is small. And it is OBVIOUS to recruits !! The difference is stunning to recruits who have already visited big time programs. Going 50/50 vs UT innfootball wins will never change that perception.

2) Patterson and Kelsey do a spectacular job recruiting, which allows TCU to get about 1 out of 50 highly ranked recruits. Without Gary and Kelsey TCU would totally whiff.

3) only a National Championship would change the recruiting landscape for TCU. A mere league title won’t do it. Kansas won a League title in football a while back and what good did that do ? Kansas St has won one before too. Doesn’t mean a thing. Kids just consider a League title to be a fluke if a small school wins it. National Championship is totally different though. League title would not change TCUs recruiting.

4) Heres the rub - you cannot hope to win a National Championship with a #45 recruiting class in the nation. Never gonna happen. The system is rigged in favor of the big blue blood schools and it’s obvious to recruits.

Please honestly tell me what chance P5 schools like Purdue, Wake, Duke, Tcu, Indiana, Northwestern, Illinois, BC, Rutgers, Wvu, Vandy, Ore St, etc have to win a National Championship when they can’t recruit even a Top 20
in the country recruit class. ANSWER -
ZERO CHANCE !!

Which is why every single year the title favorites are only the Top 10 recruiting class schools (BAMA, OSU, CLEM, OU, LSU, GEORGIA, PED ST, MICH, FLORIDA, AUBURN, USC, etc)


And now start looking for A$M to be in that blue blood discussion since thEIR SEC membership has skyrocketed their recruiting - which has also unfortunately pushed TCUs in state recruiting to an even worse level (though TCUs out of state recruiting has saved Frog recruiting from total disaster).

BOTTOM LINE:
TCU appears very small time to recruits when they compare to UT, BAMA, Ohio St, OU, LSU, A$M facilities. And it doesn’t matter how many players TCU puts into the NFL. And it Doesn’t matter if TCU gets lucky one year out of the past 30 yrs and happens to win one League title. Only 4 stars who come to TCU are kids who like small time things which is a tiny minority.

Would take a cataclysmic event (National Champ) to change that.

You also believe in the Easter Bunny if you think a #45 in the country recruit class = National Championship.

No team in past 20 yrs (maybe ONE exception) has won a NC without a Top 10 recruit class.
How's it goin these days Scooter?
 

flyfishingfrog

Active Member
The Cody area is beautiful. Love the Shoshone River valley between Cody and Yellowstone. Hoping to get up to Cody and Red Lodge in the next month.
Yeah - pretty much any place within 150 miles of the Yellowstone park boundary is going to be really beautiful, lots of animals and have solid trout fishing - all one really needs in life.

The drive from Cody to Red Lodge is one of the best in the country.
 

ThisIsOurTime

Active Member
Yeah - pretty much any place within 150 miles of the Yellowstone park boundary is going to be really beautiful, lots of animals and have solid trout fishing - all one really needs in life.

The drive from Cody to Red Lodge is one of the best in the country.

I'm sure it is great in the Spring and Summer. But how is Wyoming in the winter time?
 

flyfishingfrog

Active Member
I'm sure it is great in the Spring and Summer. But how is Wyoming in the winter time?
depends on what part of the state you are talking about and how winter outdoor activity oriented you tend be

Western Wyoming - the part that actually has the northern Rockies in it - has a ton to do like skiing, snow machines and other outdoor activities. And obviously the entire state has solid hunting during the seasons depending on what game you want to pursue.

But it can get pretty tiresome toward the end of February and March if you ask me - about the same as the heat in Texas in August gets old.

That is why I split time between up there and Texas.

And Wyoming, Idaho and Montana are actually best in the Fall if you ask me - you just have to balance TCU football with trips up there.
 

ThisIsOurTime

Active Member
depends on what part of the state you are talking about and how winter outdoor activity oriented you tend be

Western Wyoming - the part that actually has the northern Rockies in it - has a ton to do like skiing, snow machines and other outdoor activities. And obviously the entire state has solid hunting during the seasons depending on what game you want to pursue.

But it can get pretty tiresome toward the end of February and March if you ask me - about the same as the heat in Texas in August gets old.

That is why I split time between up there and Texas.

And Wyoming, Idaho and Montana are actually best in the Fall if you ask me - you just have to balance TCU football with trips up there.
Thanks, so how are you exactly dividing things up? You are spending your winters in Texas and the rest of the year in Wyoming?
 

Billy Clyde

Active Member
That is why I split time between up there and Texas.

And Wyoming, Idaho and Montana are actually best in the Fall if you ask me - you just have to balance TCU football with trips up there.[/QUOTE]

One of the most glorious trips I ever took was to fish the Snake near Jackson in late September. Only downside was because it was low season there weren't flights from SLC so we had to drive. Stayed in a cabin in Driggs, which I would highly recommend from both a chill and cost standpoint. Prices in Jackson were absurd for the quality of accommodations. Driggs is about an hour over the Teton pass, and our cabin had a huge picture window framing the Tetons.
We fished out of a drift boat with a guide, was super-impressed with that style of craft, had never been on one before. We fished about 5 hours, lots of hungry trout, and only saw 4 humans. A pair of kayakers came by on the river, and a pair of hunters on the mountain.
Would love to find a place up there to wait out the summers away from Texas when I'm done with work.
 

flyfishingfrog

Active Member
Thanks, so how are you exactly dividing things up? You are spending your winters in Texas and the rest of the year in Wyoming?
May through October in Wyoming
Holidays with my grandkids - changes every year in location, sometimes Texas, sometimes Wyoming, sometimes where they live
Jan through April in Texas

I do trips here and there back to the Rockies to fish in March and April when the temp finally gets to be 40 degrees and come home to Texas during other times for golf tournaments but that is generally the plan
 

AroundWorldFrog

Full Member
depends on what part of the state you are talking about and how winter outdoor activity oriented you tend be

Western Wyoming - the part that actually has the northern Rockies in it - has a ton to do like skiing, snow machines and other outdoor activities. And obviously the entire state has solid hunting during the seasons depending on what game you want to pursue.

But it can get pretty tiresome toward the end of February and March if you ask me - about the same as the heat in Texas in August gets old.

That is why I split time between up there and Texas.

And Wyoming, Idaho and Montana are actually best in the Fall if you ask me - you just have to balance TCU football with trips up there.
Yep, fall is the best time. And yep, it gets old about March 1.
 
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