Very true. That isn't to say though that Alabama (or LSU) doesn't develop their players too. I think the original point was that these kids who go to these schools aren't going to develop like they would playing for GP. Maybe so, but that's probably not fair, because obviously some do develop into great players.
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Very true. That isn't to say though that Alabama (or LSU) doesn't develop their players too. I think the original point was that these kids who go to these schools aren't going to develop like they would playing for GP. Maybe so, but that's probably not fair, because obviously some do develop into great players.
The point of the thread was... does a 3* DT at 6'2 270 lbs(who may get to 300 lbs) have much of a shot at playing time(never mind the Pros) against the 4/5*s in the classes before him/ in his class/ and those classes coming in behind him. About HS to College, not necessarily College to Pros.
Do believe Blacklock is a lock to the pros, if he stays healthy this year. It appears Bethley has found his best playing wt. at 290lbs and that will probably not work in the NFL … though feel he could be all Big 12 before leaving school.
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CryptoMiner
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Red Oak HS OC and QB coach (His son is a 2021 CB prospect)
Atomic Frawg
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How does having a trainer or handler inhibit head coaches from assisting players? Serious question. If I'm a parent don't I want as much exposure for my kid as possible? Again, I'm serious. Where have the big issues arose?
Chico Dusty
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Because they want a cut of the action
Atomic Frawg
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Who? The coaches? They get paid already. The trainers get paid for the extra/offseason camps and workouts. Beyond that I would think any other money would be a violation. Where's the beef?
Chico Dusty
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Yeah..well I don’t think violation side of it stops anything. Big money is being exchanged on these top players. I don’t know the football side as much, and I know that is what we are talking about here - but on the b-ball side - it’s rife with AAU coaches and organizations trying to get money action on players signing, etc. Tons of corruption.
Froggish
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The trainer/handler/AAU problem that has plagued hoops for years has invaded football. Many of these organizations and individuals that operate within them do not have the best interest of the athlete in mind. They are attempting to “sale” the athlete to the highest bidders. Profiteering off the athletes potential. While not every HS school coach is on the up and up, most have more oversight and more to lose by trying to profit off their athletes by cutting under the table deals.
Trainers and para organizations aren’t going away as they do serve a purpose in building up athletes. However it’s widely believed that College coaches should be working with schools to protect the game
Atomic Frawg
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Thanks to you both.
Interesting … Considering he would be the shortest DE they've recruited in years and the Tigers have already recruited 3 other DEs, 2 of which are 4 *s / a 5.8 and a 5.9. Their DEs are normally Large/Wiry/and incredibly athletic … not Short and Stumpy. And either way ... he is still in the same predicament, with Staff that is less motivated to do the development at TCU's level.
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Despite the odds Frog
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The Louisiana mob come after you. Lots of pressure. Wish Texas recruits had that same pressure to play for the universities in the state. But alas they have no pressure to do so.
Moose Stuff
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Was not in discussion of what LSU wanted .. but the best opportunity/environment for the Kid overall… of course staying close to home is a big deal in various cultures.
Those situations almost always have a lot more than just “staying close to home “ involved
Like living in a nastyass town/ with heavy petro-chemical plants polluting all over that place ... not to mention much less opportunities in LA than TX.
Froggish
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This....We don’t see it in TX because of how much D1 volume is present, but a state like LA is only going to produce maybe 30 D1 players every year and from that possibly 10 that could truly physically compete at LSU. There is a lot pressure by locals to keep them in state. That means occasionally buttoning down a few questionable guys just to keep the locals happy. No matter where your at, conventional wisdom says you have to lock down your local talent because locals love cheering for their brothers, nephews, neighbors son down the road.
TX and CA are very different because they each have a ton of D1 schools in them which erodes and defy regionalism but LA, OK, MS, Ark,..(.List goes on)..CFB world revolves around the local team.
Eight
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it is more than just the number of recruits produced by the state.
lsu is THE school in that state and one could argue that outside of nola the tigers are more popular than the saints.
you have a great deal of pride in that area that focuses on one school playing a sport that is a huge deal.
thing is, they don't lock down every kid and if they falter even a bit people have pulled talent out of the state.
consider that last year was considered a great year in the boot. lsu did sign 8 of the top 10, but only 1 of the next 10 and if you look at 11-20 last year there was some great talent coming out of the state.
2018 they only pulled 5 of the top 10 in state and 1 went to tcu and 2 to kansas.
2017 they only pulled 3 of the top 10 in state and 5 of the top 20 which set off the cry to keep their kids in state.
miles had runs his course at lsu. the tigers were 19-13 in the sec his last 4 years, had some ugly losses, and weren't keeping pace with bama.
funny how even a school with a huge stadium, rabid fan base, talent close at hand, tradition, players in the nfl, and a fairly recent national title can lose its bearings
