Froggish
Active Member
Most JUCO kids don’t have the offer sheet they want so they assume they can improve their stock by playing a second year..
2020 Recruiting Thread
- Thread starter Moose Stuff
- Start date
Froggish
Active Member
Lot of recent talk about him being solid to LSU now..even a few crystal balls...Hopefully we can keep the door open
CryptoMiner
Active Member
CryptoMiner
Active Member
ASA College in Brooklyn has been turning out some really good linemen the last few years.
Tairiq Stewart 6-6/340 originally from Cleveland OH
Tairiq Stewart 6-6/340 originally from Cleveland OH
CryptoMiner
Active Member
Finish LB getting some attention (more and more Euro players getting recruited):
Daniel Luoma LB 6-1/215/4.59 former WR converting to LB
Daniel Luoma LB 6-1/215/4.59 former WR converting to LB
CryptoMiner
Active Member
That was over quickly though no surprise
Atomic Frawg
Full Member
What is straight line recruiting?
Froggish
Active Member
It’s a movement by HS coaches to redirect recruiting back towards HS coaches and away from handlers/specialized training organizations.
Froggish
Active Member
Bummer
If he only realized he'll be fighting up hill against primarily 4 and 5 *s in front of him and coming in behind him... plus those schools don't bother developing players because they just let the best 4/5* players fight it out. They coach, but feel no need to develop.
TCU puts the effort in development on their kids... reaching the top 10 six of the last 11 seasons. And on top of that advantage, if even the kid had the opportunity to notice what a dumpy environment Baton Rouge is compared to Cowtown … only 2nd to Austin in the Big 12.
Last edited:
CryptoMiner
Active Member
CGP has only put one DT in the NFL as HC and he only played in 4 games and that is used against TCU in recruiting. Hard to argue though and hopefully Bethley and Blacklock will change the story. However no way can you compare TCU DT development to LSU right now.
CGP has in the past used the position to create gaps for the LBers. He is changing that a little each year lately and he needs some talent to fit the new roles but is battling his past. Again that could change soon though.
CryptoMiner
Active Member
TE and DT are the two positions under CGP that have lacked NFL caliber players and they are trying hard to change both. A little more success at DT the last few year but still struggling this round.
Both positions currently have talent that can change the perception if they can stay healthy. TE is more of a stretch but Lynn is extremely athletic and Wells if healthy can be a difference maker.
However 2020 recruiting class so far is lacking big time at both spots. Maybe John Lanz can convince his former QB to fill the TE spot.
Both positions currently have talent that can change the perception if they can stay healthy. TE is more of a stretch but Lynn is extremely athletic and Wells if healthy can be a difference maker.
However 2020 recruiting class so far is lacking big time at both spots. Maybe John Lanz can convince his former QB to fill the TE spot.
Froggish
Active Member
A lot of truth here...As you’ve pointed out, we have made great strides at DT with Blaclock and Bethley. I also like the potential of Ellis III and incoming Johnson. Ultimately we aren’t in the same neighborhood as LSU. We would need to find 2-3 big DTs every year for GP to consider any real scheme change from the interior.
GPs scheme is remarkable because of how consistently effective it’s been without much NFL talent, size, and athleticism. While we are worlds better in size and athleticism then we used to be, the combination of the two is where we still haven’t consistently won on the recruiting trail. The good news is we are in on the right kids and that’s where it starts.
Ron Swanson
Full Member
Does anyone honestly think that LSU, Bama, Clemson, etc... put more DT’s into the league because of how they developed them while in school?
Or is it because there are very few 6’3” 320 lb high school seniors who can move, and the entire country is after the same guys but only the blue blood type programs land them?
I realize there’s a perception vs reality issue and the NFL players only help the blue bloods case even more.
Or is it because there are very few 6’3” 320 lb high school seniors who can move, and the entire country is after the same guys but only the blue blood type programs land them?
I realize there’s a perception vs reality issue and the NFL players only help the blue bloods case even more.
Froggish
Active Member
No....I don’t think it’s about development...It’s about size, Strength, and speed and how that translates to what the NFL requires...A good coach like GP can make an undersized player effective in his scheme...That doesn’t work at the NFL level
Eight
Member
recruiting great d-tackles and putting them in the nfl in my mind is a great deal like cooking a great steak.
you buy quality meat, prepare it properly, and more times than not you get a great steak.
guys like christian wilkins, ashawn robinson, casey hampton, sean rodgers, big ross etc... are elite in large part due to genetics. being that big, fast, strong, etc....
there are a few who might have grown into the position, but the majority of the elite had the tools when they stepped on the college campus
Frog-in-law1995
Active Member
This. Alabama doesn’t put DTs in the league. They recruit guys who would end up in the league if they played at Midwestern State.
CryptoMiner
Active Member
Maybe not development per se but the schemes they use are more likely to get the ready for the next level. Of course the can use those schemes because of the players they recruit, however TCU is changing its scheme up front which should help.
Froggish
Active Member
I know we played some 3 stack last year which was a mixed bag, but I’m not sure changing our schemes all that smart given how effective they’ve been..How do you see the scheme up front changing?
Eight
Member
i have heard the comments before about how tcu's utilizes (or has utilized) their defensive tackles has hurt them in recruiting, but what i find interesting is other programs seem to skirt the problem.
the down 3 in the texas front are basically catching blockers and freeing up the linebackers to make plays. if you are a defensive end for texas you are playing head up or even an inside shade instead of setting up on the outside shoulder.
the down 3 in the texas front are basically catching blockers and freeing up the linebackers to make plays. if you are a defensive end for texas you are playing head up or even an inside shade instead of setting up on the outside shoulder.
