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Before u get all giggly and puffy about the abundance of QBs

Pharm Frog

Pharm Frog

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WyomingFrog said:
Let’s review the bidding (and the real story behind the scenes) that led us to the point that Frog Coaches were actively searching (somewhat desperately) for another body at the QB position -

Qualifier: some of this is opinion and some of this comes from someone inside the program and I won’t tell you which is which for fear of outing the source.

1) Collins as an option is extremely worrisome and resigns the team to a mediocre (or worse season) and Coaches cannot accept that. My guess is he will transfer after sitting the bench the whole season.

2) Rogers is very very concerning and this is no secret. Fans do not want to hear that and try to shout down any ideas along those lines but I don’t think his foot will ever get better. Others can see it too but will not comment on it but unfortunately it’s true. My guess is he will transfer also. I don’t think he will ever be a P5 QB. If he does ever play a P5 game - one good hit on that foot and he will retire from football. I don’t think he could ever in a million yrs stand up to a brutal B12 season and I’m not the only one who thinks that.

3) Delton is a shockingly poor passer but a very good runner. He GREATLY disappointed Coaches in Spring Ball with his passing which is why Coaches were out looking for another QB. He is not a B12 QB. He should be a RB.

4) Duggan is exciting ! He is the future, but he is absolutely not ready and won’t be ready for 2 years. And the Coaches know that but say good things about him to encourage him and keep him working hard. But no stinkin way is he ready to be a starting QB in B12. He absolutely needs to redshirt and then sit another year after that (and gain 15 pounds!). Coaches know that Duggan could be ruined forever by throwing him to wolves as an undersized little freshman (OU and UT would destroy him and beat him up badly). Dalton (who was a future 10 yr NFL QB) struggled terribly as a freshman in the stinkin Mountain West Conference. Throwing Duggan into the B12 as a freshman would probably destroy him especially since he is not ready.

5) The new QB commit (Williams) is simply not a P5 QB. He is a tight end. End of that story.

6) Baldwin - Did well in Ohio St Spring Ball minus two bad throws (interceptions). Threw 35 passes in that game. Minus those 2 bad throws he was much better than the highly touted transfer (Fields), but unfortunately for him Fields was promised the starting job. Fields is a horrid passer but great runner so OSU is going to be spectacularly bad this coming season.

Bottom line ...........

BALDWIN IS THE STARTER

DUGGAN IS THE HEIR APPARENT IN 2-3 YEARS AND BECOMES STARTER IN HIS JUNIOR YR (after redshirt)

ROGERS AND COLLINS TRANSFER OUT AFTER THIS COMING SEASON AND PLAY FOR LOWER DIV 2 TEAMS THEIR FINAL FEW YRS

Some here will scream and cry and throw tantrums and be enraged and try their utmost to kill the messenger but that won’t change it

Baldwin and Duggan are the QBs going forward for foreseeable future
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SuperTFrog

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WyomingFrog said:
Froglash, FlyFish and Banker -

Plz go back to your heroes AOC and Bernie Sanders. Your lib Democrat tactics are not wanted here. Bye bye Dems !
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For the record, I am a conservative, but Wyoming Frog reminds me of what Trump would sound like if he were in a message board. Crooked Hillary! So asinine.
 
notyalc

notyalc

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WyomingFrog said:
Bottom line ...........

BALDWIN IS THE STARTER

DUGGAN IS THE HEIR APPARENT IN 2-3 YEARS AND BECOMES STARTER IN HIS JUNIOR YR (after redshirt)

ROGERS AND COLLINS TRANSFER OUT AFTER THIS COMING SEASON AND PLAY FOR LOWER DIV 2 TEAMS THEIR FINAL FEW YRS

Some here will scream and cry and throw tantrums and be enraged and try their utmost to kill the messenger but that won’t change it

Baldwin and Duggan are the QBs going forward for foreseeable future
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I see the CAPS starting to creep into your posts.
 
Fosterpark Squatter

Fosterpark Squatter

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Again Roger's got in the bowl game months ago and if his injury really is still that bad he wouldn't play again period instead of transferring to a lower program to play. Non P5 or even D3 may hit "softer" on average but still wouldn't be that much better than a P5 hit to an injury.
 
frogtown

frogtown

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WyomingFrog said:
Let’s review the bidding (and the real story behind the scenes) that led us to the point that Frog Coaches were actively searching (somewhat desperately) for another body at the QB position -

Qualifier: some of this is opinion and some of this comes from someone inside the program and I won’t tell you which is which for fear of outing the source.

1) Collins as an option is extremely worrisome and resigns the team to a mediocre (or worse season) and Coaches cannot accept that. My guess is he will transfer after sitting the bench the whole season.

2) Rogers is very very concerning and this is no secret. Fans do not want to hear that and try to shout down any ideas along those lines but I don’t think his foot will ever get better. Others can see it too but will not comment on it but unfortunately it’s true. My guess is he will transfer also. I don’t think he will ever be a P5 QB. If he does ever play a P5 game - one good hit on that foot and he will retire from football. I don’t think he could ever in a million yrs stand up to a brutal B12 season and I’m not the only one who thinks that.

3) Delton is a shockingly poor passer but a very good runner. He GREATLY disappointed Coaches in Spring Ball with his passing which is why Coaches were out looking for another QB. He is not a B12 QB. He should be a RB.

4) Duggan is exciting ! He is the future, but he is absolutely not ready and won’t be ready for 2 years. And the Coaches know that but say good things about him to encourage him and keep him working hard. But no stinkin way is he ready to be a starting QB in B12. He absolutely needs to redshirt and then sit another year after that (and gain 15 pounds!). Coaches know that Duggan could be ruined forever by throwing him to wolves as an undersized little freshman (OU and UT would destroy him and beat him up badly). Dalton (who was a future 10 yr NFL QB) struggled terribly as a freshman in the stinkin Mountain West Conference. Throwing Duggan into the B12 as a freshman would probably destroy him especially since he is not ready.

5) The new QB commit (Williams) is simply not a P5 QB. He is a tight end. End of that story.

6) Baldwin - Did well in Ohio St Spring Ball minus two bad throws (interceptions). Threw 35 passes in that game. Minus those 2 bad throws he was much better than the highly touted transfer (Fields), but unfortunately for him Fields was promised the starting job. Fields is a horrid passer but great runner so OSU is going to be spectacularly bad this coming season.

Bottom line ...........

BALDWIN IS THE STARTER

DUGGAN IS THE HEIR APPARENT IN 2-3 YEARS AND BECOMES STARTER IN HIS JUNIOR YR (after redshirt)

ROGERS AND COLLINS TRANSFER OUT AFTER THIS COMING SEASON AND PLAY FOR LOWER DIV 2 TEAMS THEIR FINAL FEW YRS

Some here will scream and cry and throw tantrums and be enraged and try their utmost to kill the messenger but that won’t change it

Baldwin and Duggan are the QBs going forward for foreseeable future
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Do you sniff male bottoms?!?
 
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Rabidfrog

Active Member
WyomingFrog said:
Looks like we got some Democrats on this board.

Got no facts ?
Got no info on your own ?
Know nobody in the program ?
Never observed players at practice or film ?
Haven’t spoken to a player ?
Haven’t seen in person the players ?

No matter !!

Just use the typical slimeball Democrat technique............

Simply insult the subject and ignore any or all facts and pursue a factless and baseless strategy of throwing mud.

We now see clearly who Democrats are on this board and it ain’t a pretty sight. Keep children and women away from these people !!

Yikes !
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No politics, please, or I'll bring up your liar in chief.
 
H0RNEDFR0G

H0RNEDFR0G

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I'm with WyFrog on this one (as far as the Baldwin stuff) heck of a throw:



Fields was atrocious in the Spring game going 4/13 for 131 yards, 98 yards of which came on one pass. To be fair to Fields though, that pass was really nice. Even OSU homer coverage said he was "much more impressive on the ground, running 8 times for 38 yards. But I gotta say that running less than 5 yards per carry in a bright red don't hit me jersey is not very impressive. Its gonna be a rough year for them.
 
Froggish

Froggish

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H0RNEDFR0GBLITZ said:
I'm with WyFrog on this one (as far as the Baldwin stuff) heck of a throw:



Fields was atrocious in the Spring game going 4/13 for 131 yards, 98 yards of which came on one pass. To be fair to Fields though, that pass was really nice. Even OSU homer coverage said he was "much more impressive on the ground, running 8 times for 38 yards. But I gotta say that running less than 5 yards per carry in a bright red don't hit me jersey is not very impressive. Its gonna be a rough year for them.
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Spring games probably aren’t the best place to set your expectations..Especially since we didn’t really have one...Also your probably aware that Baldwin through a couple of boneheaded picks in the OSU spring game...Nobody really knows if we’ll even be able to complete a non WR screen next year..
 
H0RNEDFR0G

H0RNEDFR0G

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Froggish said:
Spring games probably aren’t the best place to set your expectations..Especially since we didn’t really have one...Also your probably aware that Baldwin through a couple of boneheaded picks in the OSU spring game...Nobody really knows if we’ll even be able to complete a non WR screen next year..
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I'm not saying that Baldwin is great, yes I knew he threw some ints. But that was a nice pass.

We need to get real about QB expectations, we have Collins and Rogers coming off injuries. Collins hasn't thrown a pass since November. Rogers played in the bowl game because we had no options left. He was not ready and it showed.

Next we have a true Freshman and a Senior transfer. Our transfer was 96/171 (56%) in 3 years at K-State. That's a system that doesn't throw a lot of risky passes, so you have to imagine that a good number of his incompletions were to WRs that were <15 yards away.

We threw the ball 410 times last year, and unless we redesign the offense again, we're gonna need someone who can throw the ball.

Baldwin's clip gave me a reason to be excited about the QB position. We been given literally 0 other reason to be excited. Try not to take a dump on that.
 
Froggish

Froggish

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H0RNEDFR0GBLITZ said:
I'm not saying that Baldwin is great, yes I knew he threw some ints. But that was a nice pass.

We need to get real about QB expectations, we have Collins and Rogers coming off injuries. Collins hasn't thrown a pass since November. Rogers played in the bowl game because we had no options left. He was not ready and it showed.

Next we have a true Freshman and a Senior transfer. Our transfer was 96/171 (56%) in 3 years at K-State. That's a system that doesn't throw a lot of risky passes, so you have to imagine that a good number of his incompletions were to WRs that were <15 yards away.

We threw the ball 410 times last year, and unless we redesign the offense again, we're gonna need someone who can throw the ball.

Baldwin's clip gave me a reason to be excited about the QB position. We been given literally 0 other reason to be excited. Try not to take a dump on that.
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If we show up in August with 4-5 healthy QBs we will be ahead..Baldwin is a talent and I hope he’s eligible to compete for the job...With Baldwin and Duggan we have talented youngsters who should be capable of turning things around. How quickly is another story..Rogers is still a question mark but I’m hoping that he can also add to the mix...I can’t imagine we can’t find one good QB out of those three...If we can’t, Cumbie has some explaining to do
 

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