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wes

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Great responses.

Whatever the outcome, I would just wish for a quick resolution to this.

I tend to take bit of a hard line in that he knew what his buyout would be and was apparently comfortable enough with it to sign the deal. If he assumed that TCU would drop it down , then that was presumptuous on his part.

I don’t know the answer and am not sure I even know all of the questions but I think at this point, it’s better for all parties to work out a deal and move forward. The last thing I would want is a coach who blames his employer for holding him back

I’ll also look at it like this. At least we have a coach that another school wants.

Do you hear Shaka Smarts name mentioned in any of these job searches? Scottt Drews name? Any other Big 12 coaches name? It’s not much but we have a guy that others want
 

TAINTed frog

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CryptoMiner

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Which begs the question, If the buyout is the hang up and apparently it is, will we have a disgruntled coach in our hands next year?

As we learned with Pat Sullivan, when a coach wants to leave, its probably best to work out a deal and cut him loose. Sullivan’s heart was not into this job after we held firm on the LSU deal and we paid the price for it. Yes it led to our getting Dennis Franchione and ultimately Gary Patterson but lightning may not strike twice, like that.

Both Schloss and Patterson have had one foot out the door while coaching at TCU and in each case they stayed and not necessarily because of anything TCU did to keep them.

Those two cases worked out well for TCU.

Have no idea what will be the final outcome but Dixon is a professional and wants to win. If he ends up staying I do not think it will be an issue.

If he leaves God help us....Okay maybe it won't be that bad.
 

Deep Purple

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TCU pays JD upwards of $4 million in base salary and other compensation. According to the Cost of Living Calculator at bestplaces.com, LA is 81.2% more expensive than DFW. If true, UCLA would have to pay him $7.25 million just to equal what he's making at TCU.

Would that be a factor?
 
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netty2424

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From a preacher friend of mine, this analogy: Okay, I'm preacher in this great church. Wonderful people. Great community to live in. Very good salary. Growing congregation. But here this great BIG, famous church halfway across the continent calls me. I grew up there. My parents still live there. My sister and brother live there. A bigger salary. I'm thinking, would I begin to wonder if it wasn't the Lord calling me there?
Lol. Did he pass you the plate at the end of the story and ask for a donation?
 

WhatTheFrog

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Both Schloss and Patterson have had one foot out the door while coaching at TCU and in each case they stayed and not necessarily because of anything TCU did to keep them.

Those two cases worked out well for TCU.

Have no idea what will be the final outcome but Dixon is a professional and wants to win. If he ends up staying I do not think it will be an issue.

If he leaves God help us....Okay maybe it won't be that bad.
I'm not so sure that either of those coaches had one foot out the door, other than MAYBE Schloss last season. Both had proven success at TCU. It took a long time for other schools to take an interest in either. Maybe it was due to us being in lesser conferences, but they stayed and continued to produce at a high level regardless of what conference we were in. I think (THINK) that the "interest" that either coach showed in other programs was to bolster their worth here. I really don't think that either coach would want to go anywhere else. Patterson already is the god of TCU football and has a statue just outside the stadium. Schloss has been here for years, has gotten regular raises, and many upgrades for his program. He may be on the verge of having a statue erected next to Patterson's. If Dixon performs anything like that (which shouldn't be that difficult), he will become the winningest MBB coach that TCU has ever seen. He could have a statue next to GMFP and CJS at that point.

I don't know. This is just MY opinion, but I think it would be so much cooler to be known as THE coach at, what may be considered by some or many, a lower top 25 school in a better city than most, than an also-ran at some other higher rated school. Again, just my opinion.

Fort Worth is a much better city to live in, overall, than any city in CA, Tuscaloosa, whatever podunk city/town Miss St. is in, Houston, goat darner College Station, etc.

GMFP is already considered a hometown guy after all of the time he's been here and what he's done in this city. He's a city ambassador. From what I've heard, his family (Kelsey, mainly) loves it here. He has a statue. Schloss may well be on his way to the same status, but in baseball (I understand the status of the sports here). If Dixon can do what we think he can do, according to what we've seen him do in his past, he has the potential to be in that same class as a MBB coach.

Yes, I have always had ADHD (explains a lot, right?). This post has been all over. Nevertheless, I think what I have said has some relevance.

Or not.

Again, tl;dr

P.S. No, I'm not Bruin Steve.
 

AddRan Clark

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Do you hear Shaka Smarts name mentioned in any of these job searches?

I actually have heard him mentioned by a couple UCLA fans on other websites/boards. Not sure how realistic it is. Other people mentioned him going to Virginia Tech, but it's apparent that UT fans aren't happy with him. It's just so sad and awful for Longhorns to only win the NIT. Boo hoo.
 
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Bob

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Crap Wes, I thought you were talking about the big casino. I got my news Wednesday. It was kind of a shock, but screw it.
 

JogginFrog

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As long as we're indulging in speculation, how about this: UCLA is wavering because Chris Del Conte called them and said, "Instead of you paying TCU $8 mil to buy out Dixon, let's split Shaka Smart's contract buyout for $6.5 mil each. You take Smart and we'll go get Chris Beard."
 

AddRan Clark

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FWIW, I'd bet that he's staying at this point. I certainly could be wrong, but I think if they're hesitating about paying the buyout, they're not going to do it. A school like UCLA probably has several boosters with massive egos who all have different ideas on what they should do. Hiring Dixon is obviously something they're not all agreed upon, and maybe not an idea they can all get behind.

If I'm Jamie, I would probably not want to even be picked anymore. I would want to be someone's first choice, and to feel really desired like he was when we got him from Pitt. UCLA will chew him out and toss him aside when they're done. Being close to family is nice, but if he can't get them to at least a few Final Fours, he's going to find himself unemployed before long.

I would honestly be ecstatic just to get to the Sweet 16. Even once before I die, and I'm still only 30.
 

asleep003

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UCLA … every year, probably has a couple of teams worth of final 4 talent, in recruits, coming out of the greater LA area alone to visit. They usually have their picking share of the litter nationwide, however the coaching hasn't been there. So JD would be interested in UCLA.
 

tetonfrog

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Do you hear Shaka Smarts name mentioned in any of these job searches? Scottt Drews name? Any other Big 12 coaches name? It’s not much but we have a guy that others want

Dixon would have been and still would be a good hire for them. It sounds like JD's buyout stalled those negotiations. Now, they will wait and talk with Virginia's Bennett and Beard after the Final 4. But if they thought they could hire Self or Huggy, UCLA would do it right now. Their fans would love either of those guys. Smart and Beard and Krueger or the ISU coach don't have enough skins on the wall right now for that fan base.

I can't see Bennett leaving Virginia, but who knows? It would not take a lot of time to climb to the top of the PAC 12. It would be easier to beat UW, USC and Oregon than Duke, Carolina and Va Tech? Of course doubling your salary may make it easier to say yes.

And can they throw that kind of money at Beard, especially if Tech loses in the semis or finals? Would their fans accept Beard and his $7 or $8 million salary with no rings on his fingers?

What will be interesting is where the UCLA administrators go if both Bennett and Beard say no next week. Would their boosters pony up to pay Dixon or settle for the Cincy's coach or Smart or take chances on Earl Watson, who tanked as an NBA coach? They could even wait for the Lakers' Luke Walton. Who knows?

That is why this won't be over until next week. I still say Dixon is gone if UCLA comes back and pays the buyout. He is a better fourth option after Pitino, Bennett and Beard than anyone else.
 
What if Donati negotiated the buyout to $4 million and UCLA still said no.
Funny you should mention that bc I’m hearing that $5 million would have done the deal and UCLA balked. But then I owe everyone an apology bc I posted yesterday “He gone” and obviously I was incorrect. I’m hearing these things from a guy who has never been wrong about what is going on with TCU sports. He says UCLA is indecisive to put it mildly
 

satis1103

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Pretty sure literally everyone thought it was a done deal Wednesday/Thursday. I certainly did.
Nope. Check like the 4th post of the big thread. This was Schloss 2.0 and I (and others) called it from the start. Never backed down, felt that way the whole time.

And my reasoning remains the same. Real signings do not unfold over 72 hours on twitter. There may be a little smoke initially, but then an official announcement happens quickly. The more it drags on and creates both premature reports and speculations with little to distinguish between them: A. The less likely it seems that the first-to-press info was determinative and B. The more pressure builds on the entire process. And that pressure alone can derail things, much less the economics of the deal itself.
 
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