AroundWorldFrog
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OT - Living in Wyoming?
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flyfishingfrog
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well - to be honest probably not going to say because I have a house there and it is still at least a little remote so that I can find water without people around even during great hatches.
However, beyond my spot - which would not be great for shipping anyway unless you want to drive into town every day - I would say either:
1. Ashton, Idaho if you can handle the technical aspects of the top end of Henrys Fork as your main river. Its within 90 mins of the entire Henrys, the South Fork, the Madison, Hebgen and the NW Yellowstone waters and since it still in the snake river plain before you head up the hill to Island Park - the winters are not crazy like Island Park or West Yellowstone.
2. Southwestern Montana - somewhere south of I-90, east of I-15 and west of highway 89 that was NOT Bozeman or Butte. Dillon, Twin Bridges, Ennis, Sheridan - there are some great towns in that area.
Big Sky/Gallatin river corridor is beautiful but hwy 191 is a handful in the summer and borderline crazy in the winter. I think it is the most dangerous highway in America currently or one of the top 2 at least.
Just realize - as much as I love it up there and some great people live there year round - they are not Texans. Lots of locals that have a chip on their shoulder about anyone out of state because tourist or not - you are changing the life and land they were born and raised on.
So take it with a grain of salt - after 40 years of having a home in that country, I still get crap because I have Texas plates when I drive up instead of fly.
flyfishingfrog
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One other thing to consider fishing wise and why I lean toward Idaho and Montana - but those states have determined that the river up to the high water mark belongs to the state, so you can wade fish and move within the river boundaries as long as you entered legally (didn't cross private land to the get to the river).
Wyoming and Colorado rules the land owner adjacent to the river owns the river bottom but the water belongs to the state - so you can float the river but not touch bottom or you are trespassing.
I won't own land in a state that has the stupid Colorado or Wyoming law - and it is why finding open water in higher population areas of both states can be problematic at best. Wyoming at least has a lot less people and a lot more open water, but when you look at things like 20+ mile floats on the Green it still seems ridiculous.
Fly fishing in Colorado has almost become like trying to water ski PK in summer...
Wyoming and Colorado rules the land owner adjacent to the river owns the river bottom but the water belongs to the state - so you can float the river but not touch bottom or you are trespassing.
I won't own land in a state that has the stupid Colorado or Wyoming law - and it is why finding open water in higher population areas of both states can be problematic at best. Wyoming at least has a lot less people and a lot more open water, but when you look at things like 20+ mile floats on the Green it still seems ridiculous.
Fly fishing in Colorado has almost become like trying to water ski PK in summer...
Deep Purple
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I've traveled through most of that northern tier of states from New England to the Pacific Northwest, and almost all of it is beautiful, but I could never live anywhere up there. Couldn't take their winters. I'm naturally heat-tolerant and absolutely hate the cold. I'll take a baking golden summer over an icy blue winter every time.
Also, my wife has relatives in Minnesota and Michigan. We've visited them in summers when everything is green and lush. It's really lovely, but when they tell me about their winters, I get the cold shivers. Apart from the 6-10 inches (or more) of snow on the ground, they say it's not unusual for the sun to disappear behind the winter overcast in late November and not reappear until sometime in March. Good gawd. Four straight months without seeing the sun? The glorious, basking, vitamin D-giving sun?
I'd have the Suicide Hotline on speed dial, and they'd be hearing from me weekly.
Also, my wife has relatives in Minnesota and Michigan. We've visited them in summers when everything is green and lush. It's really lovely, but when they tell me about their winters, I get the cold shivers. Apart from the 6-10 inches (or more) of snow on the ground, they say it's not unusual for the sun to disappear behind the winter overcast in late November and not reappear until sometime in March. Good gawd. Four straight months without seeing the sun? The glorious, basking, vitamin D-giving sun?
I'd have the Suicide Hotline on speed dial, and they'd be hearing from me weekly.
Ray Finkle
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Idaho is the sleeper state of the west. I currently have a job offer up there and considering it. Colorado sucks. Too many Californians and other transplants, sorry Texas but you are included too. At least the Texas folks aren't crazy socialists. Montana is also getting the California migration.
Utah is tough, if you aren't Mormon. Great people but it can be a bit cliquish and you will fall outside.
If you like to fly fish, look for something with a nearby tailwater to ensure you have a year-round fishery.
If you like to hunt, Idaho doesn't have preference points for moose, sheep, and goat. Therefore, pick the one species to apply for (can only apply for one) that year and you'll have equal odds whether you've been there 1 year or 40 years.
Utah is tough, if you aren't Mormon. Great people but it can be a bit cliquish and you will fall outside.
If you like to fly fish, look for something with a nearby tailwater to ensure you have a year-round fishery.
If you like to hunt, Idaho doesn't have preference points for moose, sheep, and goat. Therefore, pick the one species to apply for (can only apply for one) that year and you'll have equal odds whether you've been there 1 year or 40 years.
Tumbleweed
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Family who live in Red Lodge, MT. Ranchers, own a B&B, restaurant and a guide service. Just a stones throw from the park. Economy seems stable, housing affordable. Close to main hub for flights. Fabulous, fabulous stream fishing and elk in numbers.
Wouldn't live there for any reason. For that matter, no place where its 20 below zero is attractive to me. But they love 12 feet of snow in Feb
Wouldn't live there for any reason. For that matter, no place where its 20 below zero is attractive to me. But they love 12 feet of snow in Feb
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Brog
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Yeah, if you can find a decent $300,000 house in the Tanglewood area, you're going to be paying about $1,000 PER MONTH property tax. Difficult, to say the least.
AroundWorldFrog
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Beautiful area on one of the best motorcycle roads in the world!
AroundWorldFrog
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Thanks for all the input.
Both WY and ID have low overall taxation rates, WY has no income tax like TX. I would figure to increase my disposable income by about 7-8% by moving to WY or ID.
Both WY and ID have low overall taxation rates, WY has no income tax like TX. I would figure to increase my disposable income by about 7-8% by moving to WY or ID.
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Mean Purple
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Wyoming is an awesome place. But living there is not for everyone. Only been in that part of that state once. My times there are in places like Casper, Kaycee and Cheyenne, as well as up on the Thunder Basin. But there is enough to do in the state, and with the prox to SLC, that it could be done.
Gotta be better than living in the big city.
Gotta be better than living in the big city.
Big Frog II
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If you have a $300,000 Tad appraised house in Tanglewood your taxes would be about $7500.00 with your homestead exemption. It's about 2.6% per year.
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Living in Jackson is great if u can find a place to live. That is the challenge. Unfortunately, it gets overrun in the summmer by the swarm of tourists. I actually love the winter there even if I can’t ski any more. Serene & a lot of the people are summer only types.
Star valley/alpine is so pretty, but I would look in Hoback junction or bondurant before alpine. Also, check out victor & driggs ID. Good people there, fishing is great & I really like grand targhee, the little ski area that has great music festivals in the summer. Idaho falls is ok. Very morman though & they weaken the beer. Nice town with a mall.
I am actually in Denver now because my land lord sold his house instead of rerenting to me & I couldn’t find another place to live. I will probably move back next summer. I miss Jackson so much. It is tough to work there, especially in the summer when the town is overrun & you have no staff. The last summer was just brutal as I worked so much that I had no time enjoy the summer. The job was literally 24/7. Looking forward to my next attempt there. Good luck.
I would also check Cody or Bozeman, MT out. Big fan of both of those towns, especially Bozeman. It reminds me of Jackson & the Big Sky area is gorgeous.
Star valley/alpine is so pretty, but I would look in Hoback junction or bondurant before alpine. Also, check out victor & driggs ID. Good people there, fishing is great & I really like grand targhee, the little ski area that has great music festivals in the summer. Idaho falls is ok. Very morman though & they weaken the beer. Nice town with a mall.
I am actually in Denver now because my land lord sold his house instead of rerenting to me & I couldn’t find another place to live. I will probably move back next summer. I miss Jackson so much. It is tough to work there, especially in the summer when the town is overrun & you have no staff. The last summer was just brutal as I worked so much that I had no time enjoy the summer. The job was literally 24/7. Looking forward to my next attempt there. Good luck.
I would also check Cody or Bozeman, MT out. Big fan of both of those towns, especially Bozeman. It reminds me of Jackson & the Big Sky area is gorgeous.
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Very interesting thread. All I can add is buy/watch Wind River on a chilly night.
Oh, and wherever you’re fishing, don’t cast too high or you might catch one of these sneaking up on ya:
Oh, and wherever you’re fishing, don’t cast too high or you might catch one of these sneaking up on ya:
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