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MTfrog5

Active Member
MTfrog5,

you might want to consider hiring a body guard if you do bring a sign to the game

this guy is an amateur cage fighter and time travel expert who i think would fit into your price range.

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I’ll get @RollToad to roll up on his motorcycle and bring in Jason Phillips once Roll Toad crashes again
 

Eight

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I’ll get @RollToad to roll up on his motorcycle and bring in Jason Phillips once Roll Toad crashes again

anyone can make an entrance on a motorcycle, well maybe not roll toad

but if your hired muscle makes an entrance like this those buckeye fans will think twice about starting any [ Finebaum ] with you

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ShadowFrog

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I hope McMurphy has life insurance coverage that includes poison tipped umbrellas. I’m afraid he’s gonna need it. Don’t try to draw to an inside straight tOSU. This ain’t Casino Royale & you guys sure as hell ain’t James Bond at the table.
 

Mean Purple

Active Member
I'm honestly not sure how some of you even enjoy sports given all the conspiracies you believe in. Urban Meyer is a completely replaceable entity when it comes to ESPN. He goes and the next guy steps in and everything continues to run on autopilot in Bristol. UM doesn't generate $ for ESPN, Ohio State does. And every coach in the SEC could get fired tomorrow and ESPN would have a heydey covering that and who the potential replacements might be, and the money would keep rolling in. And no matter who is coaching and no matter what teams are ranked in the Top 10, Top 25 or whatever, college football fans are still going to be glued to their TV sets on Saturday.
Tell us, do you have a service that comes in to clean your Herbstreit shrine, or do you pay the neighbor's kid to do it?
 

CountryFrog

Active Member
Sorry, but that is way too easy of an out for ESPN considering they waited too long when this story initially broke. Jumping on follow up is not an excuse for how much they have decided not to cover about this story and other Meyer issues dating back to Florida.

Much like Pruitt at Tennessee. The crap that he did at Georgia was unreal. ESPN was beyond nervous when David Pollack made reference to it at SEC media days, in response to a tweet from Arron Murray.
I will agree that the Florida stuff gets stunningly little coverage from any media and don't have an answer for you there.

I'm just not seeing where ESPN is intentionally suppressing this Ohio St coverage. I'm not even arguing whether or not they should talk about it more. That's a legitimate debate. I'm just arguing that I don't think they're making a concerted effort to "protect" Ohio St. I have yet to see anyone lay out the specific way that covering the story more or less will impact ESPN financially in any way.

They may indeed be wrong in not talking about it even more, but I think there are legitimate explanations that can be made for that without jumping to some of the other theories that some people have put out there.

And I've been very critical of ESPN college football coverage at times in the past, particularly the 2014 playoff debacle where they trotted out 17 different former OSU players to give us their thoughts. I'm just not seeing it here.
 
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Zubaz

Member
Sorry, but that is way too easy of an out for ESPN considering they waited too long when this story initially broke
Huh? The news was on ESPN the same day it broke everywhere else. There was a gap between Facebook / Twitter posts and it making ESPN, but given what we know about how news sources normally operate I'm not sure "they took an hour or two to verify the story" is the worst thing in the world. I know I prefer it to the alternative.
 

Zubaz

Member
I'm honestly not sure how some of you even enjoy sports given all the conspiracies you believe in. Urban Meyer is a completely replaceable entity when it comes to ESPN. He goes and the next guy steps in and everything continues to run on autopilot in Bristol. UM doesn't generate $ for ESPN, Ohio State does. And every coach in the SEC could get fired tomorrow and ESPN would have a heydey covering that and who the potential replacements might be, and the money would keep rolling in. And no matter who is coaching and no matter what teams are ranked in the Top 10, Top 25 or whatever, college football fans are still going to be glued to their TV sets on Saturday.
This is demonstrably false. While you're right that there is a certain baked in audience for college football that will exist regardless of the quality on field, you are discounting just how important top flight coaches / talent are to the success of the product. We see what happens to individual teams, even overall sports, when the quality of the competition diminishes. To pretend that college football wouldn't be impacted at all if you lost every top coach is to simply not understand how sports are viewed in this country.

I agree with you that the ESPN tin foil stuff is nonsense, but you really shouldn't discount top quality talent.
 

Mean Purple

Active Member
Huh? The news was on ESPN the same day it broke everywhere else. There was a gap between Facebook / Twitter posts and it making ESPN, but given what we know about how news sources normally operate I'm not sure "they took an hour or two to verify the story" is the worst thing in the world. I know I prefer it to the alternative.
Not talking about the delay after McMurphy put it out there. Talking about how ESPN knew about it being shopped well before the day McMurphy put it out there. Surely not as bad as they were with the Penn State issue. They knew about Penn State for several years before it went out.
 

Wexahu

Full Member
This is demonstrably false. While you're right that there is a certain baked in audience for college football that will exist regardless of the quality on field, you are discounting just how important top flight coaches / talent are to the success of the product. We see what happens to individual teams, even overall sports, when the quality of the competition diminishes. To pretend that college football wouldn't be impacted at all if you lost every top coach is to simply not understand how sports are viewed in this country.

I agree with you that the ESPN tin foil stuff is nonsense, but you really shouldn't discount top quality talent.

There are an awful lot of good football coaches out there. One guys gets knocked down, the line forms to the left of guys ready to replace him. And top players are always going to go to the same schools they've pretty much have always gone to, it doesn't matter who is coaching them. If OSU gets knocked down a peg, some other major program will step in as the hot team and college football won't skip a beat. Same with Alabama. 20 years ago Tennessee and Florida were the two big contenders in the SEC and that conference and the TV networks were doing fine. Who knows, maybe Alabama will suck 10 years from now and Tennessee and Florida will be back on top. ESPN couldn't care less, they just know that as long as there are winners and losers and millions and millions of people that care about it, the money will be there.

College football will be just fine without Nick Saban and Urban Meyer, there is no need whatsoever for networks and the media to "protect" those guys.
 

Wexahu

Full Member
Not talking about the delay after McMurphy put it out there. Talking about how ESPN knew about it being shopped well before the day McMurphy put it out there. Surely not as bad as they were with the Penn State issue. They knew about Penn State for several years before it went out.

Is ESPN the only media outlet that knows stuff? Why didn't CNN, Fox or one of the other outlets release the story? Do you really think ESPN is privy to a bunch of info that nobody else knows about?
 

Wexahu

Full Member
Because, Mr. Herbstreit, y'all claim to be the prime source for sports news.

No, it's a serious question. Do you really think ESPN and only ESPN knew about all the stuff going on at PSU years before the story came out, and that ESPN purposely held on to it in order to protect PSU (or the Big 10 or whatever)?

As I said, I seriously wonder how people like you can enjoy college football, or sports for that matter. Because I believed all the crap that you believe, I'd find another hobby.
 
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