tcudoc
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You palaver as much as Deep; you're just not as loquacious.
TCU has 1 home OOC Big 5 game in the next 6 years...
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Froggy Bottom
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College Football is not better now that OU doesn't play Nebraska, that Texas doesn't play A&M or that WVU doesn't play Pitt
Rivalries are what makes CFB. You want to win every game but rivalries are games you can't stomach the thought of losing to THEM because not only are they mentally morally and genetically inferior to the greatness that is US, then you also get to look forward to having to hear about it for the next 365 days from your brother or your mom or your best friend from HS who is unfortunate enough to be a THEM and by God SMU fans are about as "THEM" as it gets!
And for all it's faults, the SWC was 7 games a year of nothing but US vs THEM
That's something to hold onto!
This year we get games against 5 of those original 7 rivals and you're a dang liar if you tell me you can't stand the thought of losing to ANY of them!
About the only thing that would make it better would be if A&M too had to come to FW to defend their big talk and walk away with no more winning streak to crow about!
So enjoy some Pony tears when we lay another whipping on their smug, entitled THEMs!
Rivalries are what makes CFB. You want to win every game but rivalries are games you can't stomach the thought of losing to THEM because not only are they mentally morally and genetically inferior to the greatness that is US, then you also get to look forward to having to hear about it for the next 365 days from your brother or your mom or your best friend from HS who is unfortunate enough to be a THEM and by God SMU fans are about as "THEM" as it gets!
And for all it's faults, the SWC was 7 games a year of nothing but US vs THEM
That's something to hold onto!
This year we get games against 5 of those original 7 rivals and you're a dang liar if you tell me you can't stand the thought of losing to ANY of them!
About the only thing that would make it better would be if A&M too had to come to FW to defend their big talk and walk away with no more winning streak to crow about!
So enjoy some Pony tears when we lay another whipping on their smug, entitled THEMs!
Alabama's away schedule is only complete for the next two years. Yes, they have no P5 OOC home games - all OOC P5 games are neutral site. Kudos to your research department for the near-identical comparison.
Guess how many OOC away games Alabama has of any kind? Yes - 0. Again, same as TCU. Oh, wait...
The convenient statistical window is the window I currently care most about, with season ticket renewals and all. Maybe you are super-charged up for the 2023 season and beyond schedules, so the next 6 years simply are not that interesting to you...
"How dare you come on my board and say TCU scheduling sucks! The schedule has been set for past 3 weeks now you moron!! You must drink a lot, man...and you [ hundin] a lot too!! You stupid agenda toting, selective picker..."
Chongo94
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Always a fan of the "meh"
jadailyTCU
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Some people on this board are way too content to drink the purple kool-aid and pretend everything is fine when it isn't, and tear down and insult those who don't want to do the same. The fact is, perception matters in this sport, and the Big 12 is perceived as being either the weakest or the second-weakest Power Five conference by everyone outside of the Great Plains (and West Virginia). If we ever want to compete for a title, we have to do WHATEVER it takes to improve our schedule. What we have some control over is the OOC schedule. At a bare minimum, we need to not be playing FCS teams anymore.
If anyone wants to pretend all is well, fine, but insulting people who are concerned about this is about as unproductive as it gets.
If anyone wants to pretend all is well, fine, but insulting people who are concerned about this is about as unproductive as it gets.
LSU Game Attendee
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I'm holding out for the frogs to demolish pig and midwest-jersey-jorts over the next couple of seasons. Do that, then sit back and and tell all to "eff off!"
If the conference could've come together and done away with all FCS games and made a more concerted effort to beef up the OOC slates then the CCG game wouldn't have been necessary. That game is going to be a net loss in the long run. Number one, it's really stupid to even have it unless the top two teams are tied and the conference is going to get some ridicule for that and two, the #2 team is going to beat the #1 team occasionally and the Big 12 will get a team knocked out of the CFP because of the game. Twitter's really gonna be fun when that happens.
tcumaniac
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Yeah. Adding a championship game is moronic and, I suspect, will come back to humiliate the Big 12, sooner rather than later.
13th data point. Your school's former AD used it as an excuse multiple times when he sat in that room with the other 12 committee members when discussing TCU.
Peacefrog
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This argument is just as far to one side as purple kool aid is to the other. Don't take fourth quarter off against Baylor in 2014 and Frogs are in regardless of FCS and FCSMU. A single championship game goes a different way and Frogs are in. Frogs lose to Va Tech early then sweep the Big 12 they are in. OU got in with a loss. PAC 12 has been left out. ACC will eventually be left out. SEC will eventually...well no they won't.
Schedule reasonably (not Baylor) and win the conference outright. It will take care of itself. But we can't be like Baylor.
And the Big 12 Chamo game is the worst idea. If ever there was proof that only money matters this is it. Otherwise the leadership of the conference should be fired. But big contracts make for safe jobs no matter how stupid the rest of the decisions are.
It was a total overreaction though. TCU didn't not get in solely because they didn't have a 13th data point, but mainly because the best team they beat that year as it turned out was Kansas State (at home). Beef up the schedule and get rid of the data points that don't do you any good, like the FCS game and the other crap team(s) in OOC and you've already got plenty of "data points". You only need to play that extra game against a good team if you haven't already played enough good teams.
We probably should have played Navy and Virginia Tech in OOC . You are on to something. The only overreaction was by your man Alvarez and your man crush in Herby.
Peacefrog
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Can't force your conference mates to be good. As soon as the SEC starts playing 9 conference games to level the playing field then this can be a more reasonable discussion. Playing a decent team OOC and three weak schools is no different than a big 12 team playing 9 conference games and three easy games OOC. If you play a solid OOC game it can be argued that you are playing ten real games to the SEC nine.
Well, Virginia Tech, Navy and a MAC school would definitely be a significant upgrade over Minnesota, SMU and an FCS school so I agree, maybe we should take OSU's lead and schedule a little better.
You're right, you can't force your conference mates to be good, that's why you need to get better teams in non-conference play. The Big 12 isn't strong enough to depend on just conference wins to impress national voters. Play a round robin and no FCS games and use that as a rallying cry of sorts for the conference. Poke fun at the SEC and ACC for their lame FCS games. Separate yourself from other conferences in a good way, that's the point.
Peacefrog
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It's just a cycle though don't you think? Not that long ago the Big 10 had maybe one good team and couldn't beat anyone ina bowl game. Not that long ago the ACC couldn't get a team ranked high enough to keep teams like TCU or Boise or Hawaii out of BCS bowls. The PAC 12 was basically Oregon and no one else for a a few years.
No I did not go back and look at historical records so I could be off slightly but you understand my point.
If the SEC gets three easy games. If the ACC gets three easy games the. Why can't the Big 12? Money and ESPN contracts.
I agree, it's definitely in a down cycle and that matters for sure. That's one of the reasons the CCG is stupid, it's an overreaction to 2014 when the conference apparently got an incurable inferiority complex. They didn't need to do anything.
Regardless what other conferences do I don't think playing FCS games does any good and beefing up the non conference schedules and keeping the round robin would separate the Big 12 as unique, in a good way IMO.
Peacefrog
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I would prefer the FCS game goes away. Keep SMU. Play a "name" team and good G5 or lower tier P5.
Every conference should be playing 9 conference games now. No way to accurately compare schedules until they are all playing by same rules. And yes that includes getting rid of FCS.
You have to feel bad for the FCS teams if this happens. no more pay days.
