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CCFP Expansion Approved!

Nick Danger

Active Member
Here is some additional information from Si.com

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CountryFrog

Active Member
We already have a 10-team playoff if you consider the conference championship games a de facto first playoff round. Which I do. But now it'll be pretty meaningless.
Not sure how you can look at it that way when every year at least one of those CCG winners is left out of the actual playoff, and some years 2-3 can be left out.
 

Nick Danger

Active Member
I think the conference championships will still be very important as only conference champions can get one of the four byes.

Additionally, it could have an effect, both good or bad, in getting a second conference team into the playoff! Remember, the winner of the conference championship game will be designated the "conference champion", and therefore get awarded the Big-12's AQ bid, regardless of the pre-game rankings of the two teams.

You could see a scenario where, say, a #6 ranked Baylor is playing a 14th (or even 18th) ranked TCU in the Championship Game, and TCU upsets Baylor (See last year). Most likely, in that situation, Baylor would lose 2-3-4 slots back to a #9 or #10 ranking, but still be in the playoff as an at-large team, while TCU would also get into the playoff, regardless of how many, or how few, slots they get bumped up, courtesy of their brand-new Get Out of Jail Free card (the AQ bid)!

Conversely, you could have a scenario where a #6 ranked Baylor is playing a #11 ranked TCU in the Championship game, and in this situation, Baylor ekes out a narrow win over TCU, as expected, thereby knocking TCU (the second team) out of the playoffs at the very last minute!
 
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Planks

Active Member
Not sure how you can look at it that way when every year at least one of those CCG winners is left out of the actual playoff, and some years 2-3 can be left out.

Good point. Last year the winner of the Big 12, Pac 12, and ACC championship games were all left out.

Those games would have mattered a lot more in the new system.
 

Casey T

Full Member
Sooner gotta be feeling pretty dumb right about now. They’d be pretty much an auto bid to the playoff every year if they had stayed. Now they’ll be lucky to see the playoff once a decade
Unfortunately, competitiveness and wins aren’t part of the decision. All about $$$. None of the sooner brass care enough, and the fans will claim the payout is worth it, even though they don’t get any of the payout
 

vicarfrog

Active Member
Super skeptical of it all. They will find a way to make fans miserable with the new system because it's still in invitational system and therefore, the house always wins.
 

Froggy Bottom

Active Member
Unfortunately, competitiveness and wins aren’t part of the decision. All about $$$. None of the sooner brass care enough, and the fans will claim the payout is worth it, even though they don’t get any of the payout

I dunno

Sooners are a spoiled fan base used to dominating the B12, winning conference titles pretty much every year and being in the playoff/discussion most years

Can’t see their fans being happy about becoming a middle of the road program in the SEC (my prediction is that NIL does to them longterm what losing partial qualifiers did to Nebraska) and only sniffing the playoff once a decade

If this had happened last year then none of these last few moves like USC/UCLA and OUT would have happened IMO

Heck it’s gonna save the PAC when Oregon realizes they can dominate the leftover PAC and go to the playoff every year and that it won’t matter if they invite SDSU and UNLV
 

ShadowFrog

Moderators
Additionally, it could have an effect, both good or bad, in getting a second conference team into the playoff! Remember, the winner of the conference championship game will be designated the "conference champion", and therefore get awarded the Big-12's AQ bid, regardless of the pre-game rankings of the two teams.

You could see a scenario where, say, a #6 ranked Baylor is playing a 14th (or even 18th) ranked TCU in the Championship Game, and TCU upsets Baylor (See last year). Most likely, in that situation, Baylor would lose 2-3-4 slots back to a #9 or #10 ranking, but still be in the playoff as an at-large team, while TCU would also get into the playoff, regardless of how many, or how few, slots they get bumped up, courtesy of their brand-new Get Out of Jail Free card (the AQ bid)!

Conversely, you could have a scenario where a #6 ranked Baylor is playing a #11 ranked TCU in the Championship game, and in this situation, Baylor ekes out a narrow win over TCU, as expected, thereby knocking TCU (the second team) out of the playoffs at the very last minute!
All quite likely via the Herbstreit “eyeball” (tool) rule.
Feel free to use that line—I hereby relinquish any copyright.
 
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