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flyfishingfrog

Active Member
You remember correctly. Bennett was being offered the job, a BMD insisted that Gary be hired, and he was. He wasn't the popular hire, just as Dykes isn't now. I think it turned out pretty well.
well Art Briles would not be a popular hire either and at least has a track record of winning at a high level - so I guess by your comparison we should be all over that hire.....
 
So now Dykes is comparable to LHCGMFP?
Trying to polish this as anything other than a bridge hire is comical, farcical at best.
This may very well be a bridge hire regardless of who it is. That could be true of Napier, Campbell or even Petersen had there been interest. The combination of conference uncertainty and following a legend put us in this unfortunate spot. If they are great, they are leaving for the SEC or B1G in a few years -- bridge coach. If Sonny isn't successful, then we're still looking at doing this again -- bridge coach. You could make an argument that those guys (Napier, et al) have the ability to set us up for the next hire, but that's purely academic. Even if TCU has a run like we did 2008-2010, or 2014-2015 the next couple of years, that won't guarantee that the B12 will remain a Power 5 Conference. If you disagree with that, then just think of it this way...if Cincy continues to be a top 10 program the next few years, will that guarantee that the B12 remains a Power 5 Conference? Or Oklahoma State? No. The people who are driving this bus are going to do what they want to do regardless of performance.
 

Dogfrog

Active Member
This may very well be a bridge hire regardless of who it is. That could be true of Napier, Campbell or even Petersen had there been interest. The combination of conference uncertainty and following a legend put us in this unfortunate spot. If they are great, they are leaving for the SEC or B1G in a few years -- bridge coach. If Sonny isn't successful, then we're still looking at doing this again -- bridge coach. You could make an argument that those guys (Napier, et al) have the ability to set us up for the next hire, but that's purely academic. Even if TCU has a run like we did 2008-2010, or 2014-2015 the next couple of years, that won't guarantee that the B12 will remain a Power 5 Conference. If you disagree with that, then just think of it this way...if Cincy continues to be a top 10 program the next few years, will that guarantee that the B12 remains a Power 5 Conference? Or Oklahoma State? No. The people who are driving this bus are going to do what they want to do regardless of performance.
The poster child for ‘performance is secondary’ is UT.
 
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Hoosierfrog

Tier 1
This may very well be a bridge hire regardless of who it is. That could be true of Napier, Campbell or even Petersen had there been interest. The combination of conference uncertainty and following a legend put us in this unfortunate spot. If they are great, they are leaving for the SEC or B1G in a few years -- bridge coach. If Sonny isn't successful, then we're still looking at doing this again -- bridge coach. You could make an argument that those guys (Napier, et al) have the ability to set us up for the next hire, but that's purely academic. Even if TCU has a run like we did 2008-2010, or 2014-2015 the next couple of years, that won't guarantee that the B12 will remain a Power 5 Conference. If you disagree with that, then just think of it this way...if Cincy continues to be a top 10 program the next few years, will that guarantee that the B12 remains a Power 5 Conference? Or Oklahoma State? No. The people who are driving this bus are going to do what they want to do regardless of performance.
If history tells us anything we are probably in for anther stretch of hires and fires before we find anyone with staying power lose GP. Prior to GP we had exactly three other successful coaches that stuck around; Schmidt, Meyer and Martin.
 

BrewingFrog

Was I supposed to type something here?
Bill O'Brien is a moron. He was ghastly with the Texans, playing "mind games" with his players, and forgetting that they are smart and tend to talk to each other. A petty dictator, who isn't all that clever.

Feh.
 
If a coach of offense is thoroughly good at crafting and implementing variable good offense against variable good defense, then does it follow he would be able to identify good defense and hire its coaches....?
 
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Mean Purple

Active Member
Yeah settling for a guy about to play in the conference championship of a P5 vs for a guy who has never sniffed one….

Settling for someone besides your first choice doesn’t mean you have to accept mediocrity but a 12 year track record seems to not be enough to demonstrate the future results I guess
If TCU hired Aranda, that would be a two fer. Great coach.
 

flyfishingfrog

Active Member
No, that isn't my entire premise, just like him really wanting to be at TCU is the criteria. Why do you keep doing that, don't you think it's a little more nuanced than that?

I don't get what you're saying, if you're hell bent on saying we settled on SD, have at it. Who cares? Unless you're getting the top one or two guys you're settling. And the Florida, USC and LSU jobs are open. If Florida wants Napier and they end up with someone else, they are settling. If LSU wants Aranda and they get Napier, they are settling. If USC wants Aranda and they get someone else, they are settling. Baylor is going to settle for someone. So is Va Tech. So is UW. If Justin Wilcox is the guy they want and they hire him, are they settling? He was 13-22 in the Pac 12.
well then to be direct - he has been better at SMU than others but not nearly good enough to be our next head coach.

a guy who can't win the AAC and has a 12 year track record of average is a bad choice - TCU does not have some great advantage over our competition that he didn't have at SMU. It won't be easier here - it will be more difficult.

So if it isn't that he did better at SMU than others or that he really wants to be here - why exactly are you excited that we just hired a really average football coach?
 

mantikos

Member
I still think Napier was slow playing us waiting to see what else opened up. He probably didn't want to be here. I'm happy with Sonny. Just hope he uses the money we give him for assistants to hire terrific defensive and special teams coordinators.
The currently rumored OC hire on the other board is less than exciting
 
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