Official Coaching Search Thread….

[Wexahu]

I have no doubt no one in college football a) wants the job and b) will be as happy as the HC at TCU as Sonny Dykes - so if that was our criteria, he is the perfect hire.

The question now will be 1.how long until we feel the same about him - and 2. how long does that feeling last.

In this crowd - 1. too long and 2. not long enough

Who said that was the criteria? I just said it could have, and probably should have been, a factor.

We'll want him here as long as he's winning. Who determines how much winning is enough? Well, that probably depends on how much you like the guy (or how much you like the AD I suppose).

 

[Wexahu]

Different people are different. The USF guy was definitely not an OC over Tony, might’ve been given a fake Co-OC title.

Morris was open about Elliott being key to his success

It’s like saying all managers at XOM are the greatest because of their employer brand. Obviously not, interview them and figure it out.

Well, I guess then Elliott should get a good job and be successful. We'll see. I'll be paying attention.

He better be careful about where he goes though, because if he goes somewhere like a Duke, Georgia Tech or South Carolina and doesn't start winning big he's gonna be labeled a below-average, mediocre coach.

 

[gofor2]

there are a number of top Coordinators that were never really considered because our first criteria was HC experience

If that is the case, that seems like a poor plan. I haven't hired coaches, but I have done a lot of hiring in my life - why limit potentially good candidates? The first criteria shouldn't necessarily be HC experience, especially in a year where the pool of coaches appears to be shallow. I would think you target both HC and Coordinators to get a feel for who would be the best fit. You bring guys in, interview, get a feel for how they would attack the job, what their plan is and see if that aligns with your plan(s).

 

[Paint It Purple]

That photo reminds me of the famous sad airport ham n’ egg sandwich photo.

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I once drove away from DQ with a hamburger that had no hamburger in it.

 

[Wexahu]

If that is the case, that seems like a poor plan. I haven't hired coaches, but I have done a lot of hiring in my life - why limit potentially good candidates? The first criteria shouldn't necessarily be HC experience, especially in a year where the pool of coaches appears to be shallow. I would think you target both HC and Coordinators to get a feel for who would be the best fit. You bring guys in, interview, get a feel for how they would attack the job, what their plan is and see if that aligns with your plan(s) and what you are trying to do at a school.

We interviewed Tony Elliott and also were trying to get some traction with Kellen Moore. No interest on the latter, who knows how much interest on the former.

Is it more important what you say or what you do?

 

[Moose Stuff]

I wake up every morning praying to baby Jesus that today will be the day we argue about something else. Listening to the exact same arguments made by the exact same posters day after day after day is just exhausting.

 

[flyfishingfrog]

I wake up every morning praying to baby Jesus that today will be the day we argue about something else. Listening to the exact same arguments made by the exact same posters day after day after day is just exhausting.

there is always Mahjong….

 

[CountryFrog]

We interviewed Tony Elliott and also were trying to get some traction with Kellen Moore. No interest on the latter, who knows how much interest on the former.

Is it more important what you say or what you do?

I would say the most important thing is to do exactly what flyfishing wants to do at all times.

 

[The Artist Formerly Known as PhormerPhrog]

You definitely need an Instagram account.

So many good thongs.

 

[Spike]

Robert C Spencer if I remember correctly.

I liked him.

 

[westoverhillbilly]

I agree with earlier posters that Sonny's ability to get very good quarterbacks is of the highest importance. Had TCU had solid qb play over the last 6 years, Gary would be in great shape here. UT has also been in a quarterback funk for over a decade and have lost 3 coaches as a result and have sucked when compared to their potential. I think Sonny can also keep our Louisiana recruiting pipeline alive from his time at LA Tech. Godspeed that he can make the right hires on the defensive side of the ball- that is my biggest concern with him.

 

[gofor2]

Is it more important what you say or what you do?

Being a leader requires both.

 

[Fosterpark Squatter]

Will the team be wearing "Fort Worth" uniforms now?

Will SD fry horse in the Iron Skillet if its won back now? (Feel like PETA would complain)

 

[Limey Frog]

We'll never know if Tony Eliot would have done better, even if he eventually goes elsewhere and wins--he still might not have worked out here. Hiring a coach is a crapshoot. We're doing it now because all hope of a return to winning ways with the one guy we all wanted was finally extinguished. Anyone still believing after this season is delusional. Now we:

a) have to take our chances
b) cannot afford in a dangerously unstable landscape to get any worse

Given these two, the logic for Dykes seems clear to me. He wasn't my first choice, but he seems like a solid double. Given his local ties and his success at SMU I'll be shocked if we keep turning in 6-win campaigns. If Dykes can get us to a stable 9-3/10-2 status in the new Big XII that might be enough should the Pac 12 decide to expand into Texas at its next TV rights window.

 

[Realtorfrog]

Yeah…. Tech hired Joey McGuire after the guy we’re about to hire told them no.

Actually never offered but thanks for playing.

 

[gofor2]

Man our fans are just the worst. SMH at bailing on this program right when they’ve moved into second place on the all time consecutive games without getting shut out list.

That's a rather dubious honor.

 

[Prince of Purpoole II]

Actually never offered but thanks for playing.

They didn’t offer bc he made it clear he wanted this job. It’s just semantics. Dykes was on their wish list ahead of McGuire

 

[Wexahu]

Actually never offered but thanks for playing.

Offers aren't made until you know the guy is going to accept it. This isn't real estate.

SD made it clear he didn't want the job.

 

[gofor2]

College football insider: 'Not enough really good candidates right now' to fill top coaching vacancies.​

Bruce Feldman believes programs with head coach vacancies have perhaps chosen a poor time to part ways with their previous leaders,

I hope this doesn't come back to bite us

 

[Wexahu]

I hope this doesn't come back to bite us

There are good candidates. It's just that nobody knows who they are.

Are there all of the sudden a lower number of good football coaches right now than there were last year? A year in which a whole bunch of good jobs open up and where there a bunch of good candidates just means a bunch of yesterday's good candidates weren't really that.