Sonny probably stays and if he does, hopefully GP puts in a new offensive coaching system - QB position coach (does not have to be OC), Passing game receiver coach, running game coach (Luper). Bring in a new OC with Sonny as QB position coach and on field coach with the OC upstairs calling the plays in conjunction with the passing game and running game assistants. IMO, this would mean Kelly doesn't stay but he will keep Thomsen one more year as Thomsen's recruits begin to get into the mix.
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Paint It Purple
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Can’t disagree with you, but out of the 30 young coaches in the article, which one is the next Brady? Real crapshoot.
DeuceBoogieNights
Active Member
We are 63rd in total offense this year. You are acting like Tcu is dead last. There are plenty of other teams with offenses worse than ours that would like to improve. He isn't going to be an analyst somewhere.
RollToad
Baylor is Trash.
Username checks out.
TX_Krötenechse
Active Member
I bet Cumbie gets demoted to QB coach - a job he has not shown himself to actually be good at - and we shuffle Anderson, Burns, and Sharp around to new positions where they’ll continue to be ineffective. Thomsen becomes new co-OC with Luper and plays are called by a random number generator in the booth.
Putt4Purple
Active Member
Memphis and Clemson coaches intrigued me. I'm listening.
A great OC hire would be Kevin Johns of Memphis and it would be a lateral move but double his pay and we get him.
FrogAbroad
Full Member
This...goes beyond the level of " crazy as a [ Finebaum ]house rat."
Despite the odds Frog
Active Member
I like the article but there are many young successful offensive coordinators out there.
I would possibly look at this list to fill a position coach.
flyfishingfrog
Active Member
He only makes $200k - and I don’t think Memphis to TCU as really lateral
G5 to P5 would be considered a promotion
By most
the question is do we to replace Cumbie with another former OC from Tech?
He took a 50% pay cut when he went to Memphis so I imagine making 4-500k again would interest him a lot
Paint It Purple
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Understand. But, a 29 year old OC on that list just beat Alabama. Although, it wasn’t long ago that a young hot shot named Cumbie was the darling of all on this forum.
TX_Krötenechse
Active Member
I would also be interested in making $4-500k thank you
Wasn't referring to that - OC to OC is still lateral positions, I think.
flyfishingfrog
Active Member
I don’t think Dillingham calls plays - Gus calls all the plays at Auburn again
I actually don’t think he ever has - he was only an OC at Memphis 1 year and I thought Norvell called the plays there also
so not sure he will be what we need if we replace Cumbie
flyfishingfrog
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Maybe
my biggest question with Johns is just like Dillingham - has he ever called plays?
He was OC under two head coaches that both traditionally called plays for themselves
Well then if he isn't calling plays, we don't want to fall into that trap again.
flyfishingfrog
Active Member
Yes - that is a problem with a lot of the younger guys
most HCs are offensive coaches in their past and unless they are playing CEO - which is normally only larger programs- they want to call their own offense
Really common in G5 schools
thus a lot of up and coming OCs have never had the playbook control
Yep, Brady comes to mind on passing downs.
I know KJ and he’s an amazing person but he’s never called plays autonomously. He’s always been in position where the head coach has done it.
At Western Mich Lester did it.
At Tech Kliff did it.
This year Norvell does it.
I love having a defensive guy as a head coach. Much better alternative than the other way around. But he needs to hire an OC and let that guy hire his own people and run his own stuff. Having Cumbie as an OC and making him run this slow down non Air Raid spread, whatever the hell it is we’re running, is idiotic.
