Bye Cumbie

[Big Frog II]

I think we have reached a consensus, the offense stinks.

Fix that and we're good.

 

[TCUWIN]

The offensive coaching can be the only reason offensive players have not produced. Not excusing lack of effort, but it has been pretty startling at times. Has to be frustration.

By all players...offensive and defensive.

 

[Mean Purple]

There is one thing to think about that many here have mentioned.
Cumbie is an air raid guy. He recruited kids for the hybrid air raid tempo space run madness. But that ain't what we have been running this season. Honestly, dont know what the scheiss we ar running.
So, question remains, why?
Is it Patterson stopping it?

 

[Froggish]

There is one thing to think about that many here have mentioned.
Cumbie is an air raid guy. He recruited kids for the hybrid air raid tempo space run madness. But that ain't what we have been running this season. Honestly, dont know what the scheiss we ar running.
So, question remains, why?
Is it Patterson stopping it?

we haven’t run that system since 2016. It’s precisely why Cumbie was given the keys when Meachum left. He was told to change the offense to a run first spread attack.

 

[Mean Purple]

we haven’t run that system since 2016. It’s precisely why Cumbie was given the keys when Meachum left. He was told to change the offense to a run first spread attack.

Well, maybe GP should stay the hell out of offense.

 

[JAB331]

Cumbie is mediocre, I have new found respect for Boynkin and Kenny Hill. Those doods coached themselves. Oh, for the glory days of Hill..! Hopefully Max sticks with us and we find him a coach that can help tap his considerable talent. If I were him, I'd probably hang around to see what we do at OC, and then decide whether I stay or go.

 

[Froggish]

Well, maybe GP should stay the hell out of offense.

Perhaps but it doesn’t change the fact that he hasn’t been able to do what he was hired to do.

 

[JAB331]

Perhaps but it doesn’t change the fact that he hasn’t been able to do what he was hired to do.

Maybe we should have someone at OC good enough that he can stay out of the offense.

 

[wilson912]

I see two sides of the coin here. First, there’s a lot of things going on within this program that I cant comprehend. There’s too many yes men on this staff as assistants for our team to be successful. A lot of former players and even a glorified defensive coordinator yes man. I find it hard to believe that there’s a lot of new and innovative ideas currently being pushed through this program. Cumbie is obviously not cut out to be OC, but it doesn’t stop at him. Every position on this team is seemingly poorly prepared and there is no pride instilled in these players wearing the TCU uniform. That is a culture issue and it starts at the top and trickles down. On the other side of the coin, is a team who lost mostly close games and could be on the precipice of becoming a leading Big 12 team as Duggan hopefully grows. I could easily see riding this wave for one more year and I firmly believe that’s what will happen. No changes and hope this team can get over the hump. I also suspect our ADJD is essentially a yes man and Gary might as well be running the athletic program at TCU. Hopefully this season won’t translate horribly into recruiting I’ll cross my fingers on that one. But this is nothing less than an extremely disappointing year and these years are becoming more and more frequent.

If he’s gonna fire Cumbie, the entire offensive staff must go.

 

[wilson912]

I have no agenda other than a complete lack of respect for the offensive coaching staff. Period.

If you don't like my opinion, don't read it.

Very cryptic. Tell us more bro

 

[Tarponator1]

I appreciate your comments. For what it’s worth, I don’t think anything you’re saying is over the top or offensive.

thoughts on Meachum?

I didn't think they were either.

I have no opinion on Meacham other than personally he's a great guy.

 

[Chew]

Cumbie seems like a good human, but he was/is unable to deliver a scheme that effectively causes our opponent to change from what they wanted to do at the outset of the game. Maybe this is on Coach P for putting handcuffs on him and his idea of an offense....regardless, there was a totally inability to OODA loop faster and better than the coaching staff and teams across the field.

I would try to argue that we changed our style of play to try and counter what was being done by other teams and just failed, but that would fly in the face of every observation of the offense being offensively bad. The defense tries from time to time, and played their tails off most games. But there was still a lot of turteling up or gambles on blitzes that just didn’t stand a chance at getting home.

Not sure I’m ready to see GP go, but the O isn’t even on life support after this season...it’s just scheissing dead.

 

[wilson912]

Cumbie seems like a good human, but he was/is unable to deliver a scheme that effectively causes our opponent to change from what they wanted to do at the outset of the game. Maybe this is on Coach P for putting handcuffs on him and his idea of an offense....regardless, there was a totally inability to OODA loop faster and better than the coaching staff and teams across the field.

I would try to argue that we changed our style of play to try and counter what was being done by other teams and just failed, but that would fly in the face of every observation of the offense being offensively bad. The defense tries from time to time, and played their tails off most games. But there was still a lot of turteling up or gambles on blitzes that just didn’t stand a chance at getting home.

Not sure I’m ready to see GP go, but the O isn’t even on life support after this season...it’s just scheissing dead.

Agree but can’t help but feel Gary’s best is in the past. Need a young energetic coach kind of like Gary in 1999.

 

[Pharm Frog]

Maybe we should have someone at OC good enough that he can stay out of the offense.

Sounds like the role of a DC

 

[flyfishingfrog]

There is one thing to think about that many here have mentioned.
Cumbie is an air raid guy. He recruited kids for the hybrid air raid tempo space run madness. But that ain't what we have been running this season. Honestly, dont know what the scheiss we ar running.
So, question remains, why?
Is it Patterson stopping it?

Exactly which play yesterday did you see any chance at running an air raid?

the one where Duggan had 1.2 seconds to throw before the nose guard was hitting him in the head or the one where he had .9 seconds before the LB ran him out of the pocket

sometimes I wonder if many people on this board actually watch the games...

 

[flyfishingfrog]

Agree but can’t help but feel Gary’s best is in the past. Need a young energetic coach kind of like Gary in 1999.

Yeah - I mean hey in the last 100 years we have had about two winning coaches - I am sure it won’t be any problem for our AD who has never been one before to run out and find us another one to replace the winningest coach in our schools history

might even get it done over lunch...

 

[wilson912]

Yeah - I mean hey in the last 100 years we have had about two winning coaches - I am sure it won’t be any problem for our AD who has never been one before to run out and find us another one to replace the winningest coach in our schools history

might even get it done over lunch...

Nobody said it’d be easy but hard not to think the program is moving in the wrong direction.

 

[flyfishingfrog]

Nobody said it’d be easy but hard not to think the program is moving in the wrong direction.

So let’s just blow it all up and hope some guy who had a few good years at App St or Georgia Southern or FAU is the answer?

And when that doesn’t work - like it doesn’t for most schools - then what?

you do realize most coaching changes don’t work out for the better don’t you? I meant most schools are forced to do it by a coach leaving and even then, it is much more common for a school to take a big step back

Michigan, USC, Tenn, FSU...not like those programs have any history of being good or anything

And look how well their multiple coaching changes are working out...

 

[Pharm Frog]

So let’s just blow it all up and hope some guy who had a few good years at App St or Georgia Southern or FAU is the answer?

And when that doesn’t work - like it doesn’t for most schools - then what?

you do realize most coaching changes don’t work out for the better don’t you? I meant most schools are forced to do it by a coach leaving and even then, it is much more common for a school to take a big step back

Michigan, USC, Tenn, FSU...not like those programs have any history of being good or anything

And look how well their multiple coaching changes are working out...

Yep. It’s as good as its ever gonna get. No changes needed. Let’s ride!

 

[Pure Purple]

Regrettably, the offense's incompetency was exceeded only by the predictability and boredom of the devised play calling.