Can’t argue that. Matt Schobel might have the best after LTSince LT it feels like our skill position players never can take that step to the next level. I guess Kerley had an alright career. Dalton underwhelming. Boyce did nothing. Doctson nothing. Listembee nothing. CoRo nothing.
Do you mean Aaron?Can’t argue that. Matt Schobel might have the best after LT
Since LT it feels like our skill position players never can take that step to the next level. I guess Kerley had an alright career. Dalton underwhelming. Boyce did nothing. Doctson nothing. Listembee nothing. CoRo nothing.
Can’t argue that. Matt Schobel might have the best after LT
Agree with the larger point, but strong disagree with Dalton. Most of the guys you mention are basically journeyman, guys that would bounce around teams for a few years before leaving the league. While he's not a hall of famer or anything, Dalton has been the starting QB for the same team for 8 years, including playoff runs being right on that Pro Bowl line several times.Since LT it feels like our skill position players never can take that step to the next level. I guess Kerley had an alright career. Dalton underwhelming. Boyce did nothing. Doctson nothing. Listembee nothing. CoRo nothing.
Depends upon the bar you set, I suppose.Since LT it feels like our skill position players never can take that step to the next level. I guess Kerley had an alright career. Dalton underwhelming. Boyce did nothing. Doctson nothing. Listembee nothing. CoRo nothing.
Verrett is/was 100% injuries at least.Some of the non-skill players have been good. Jerry Hughes, the offensive linemen, Ty Summers seems off to a good start. The one that disappoints me the most probably is Verrett.
Verrett is/was 100% injuries at least.
Matt was a TE in the league and had a few decent years for the EaglesDo you mean Aaron?
I'm assuming I'm missing something here b/c of the ignore feature since you said "can't argue that" and I can't see what you aren't arguing. Nevertheless, of the Schobels I think Aaron easily had the best career. Dude was one of the best pass rushers in the game for a 3-4 year span and averaged close to double digit sacks a season over about a decade. That's way better than anything Matt did. I'd also add Dalton, Hughes, Hawthorne, and a handful of other before Matt in terms of NFL quality.Matt was a TE in the league and had a few decent years for the Eagles
He was responding to the lack of success for "skill" positions which is why the reference was to Matt. Obviously Aaron, as 77th all time in NFL sacks, had a much more successful career.I'm assuming I'm missing something here b/c of the ignore feature since you said "can't argue that" and I can't see what you aren't arguing. Nevertheless, of the Schobels I think Aaron easily had the best career. Dude was one of the best pass rushers in the game for a 3-4 year span and averaged close to double digit sacks a season over about a decade. That's way better than anything Matt did. I'd also add Dalton, Hughes, Hawthorne, and a handful of other before Matt in terms of NFL quality.
Sorry yes taking mainly about skill playersI'm assuming I'm missing something here b/c of the ignore feature since you said "can't argue that" and I can't see what you aren't arguing. Nevertheless, of the Schobels I think Aaron easily had the best career. Dude was one of the best pass rushers in the game for a 3-4 year span and averaged close to double digit sacks a season over about a decade. That's way better than anything Matt did. I'd also add Dalton, Hughes, Hawthorne, and a handful of other before Matt in terms of NFL quality.
Makes sense then. Sometimes ignore makes it hard to understand everything going on in here.Sorry yes taking mainly about skill players
Makes sense then. Sometimes ignore makes it hard to understand everything going on in here.
Agree with the larger point, but strong disagree with Dalton. Most of the guys you mention are basically journeyman, guys that would bounce around teams for a few years before leaving the league. While he's not a hall of famer or anything, Dalton has been the starting QB for the same team for 8 years, including playoff runs being right on that Pro Bowl line several times.
Yeah if you compare his career to one of the greatest RB's in NFL history, it's going to look a little underwhelming, but he's had a really good career.
I bet most Bengals fans think his career has been underwhelming. Didn't say he was a bust but I personally thought he would have had more success as far as winning goes. And I know it's not all him, but he was the type to win at every level and I thought he would win more in the league.
Exactly. He was widely regarded as one of the elite corners in the game after his second year.Verrett is/was 100% injuries at least.
Andy Dalton actually did more winning in Cincinnati than pretty much any QB they've had in about the last 30 years. That franchise is an absolute disaster from the top down and has been since long before Andy showed up.I bet most Bengals fans think his career has been underwhelming. Didn't say he was a bust but I personally thought he would have had more success as far as winning goes. And I know it's not all him, but he was the type to win at every level and I thought he would win more in the league.