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Game Thread: TCU vs #17 ISU

Froggish

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We are 5-5 in the toughest conference in the country...We still control our own destiny and just played a close to complete game on the road...Things are good right now. Let’s enjoy it
 

CountryFrog

Active Member
Some of you might want to make sure you got the right guy that called ABob a POS. Just saying,
I think we're all aware that YOU aren't the one who did that. But when one poster says fans shouldn't call players names like that and then you respond that we should also be critical of Robinson yelling at teammates then I only quote you because it's not an apples to apples comparison that you're making. I'm not attempting to be critical of your post in any way because what you said could be a valid critique, it's just not on par with someone else calling a player a POS.
 

Eight

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It’s a strange comparison but I’ve always seen Arob as a smaller version of Ginobili - kind of a creator, defender, but not a point guard. It could be a very good thing for this team to have a floor general in Davis and also have Arob out there doing his thing as an offensive option. Causes some defensive concerns for opponents.

aside from playing basketball and both being left handed i don't see the arob and ginobili comparison.

manu was an elite finisher who could go over the top of people, was a solid passer, and was very smart on the floor. he also was a small forward/ 2-guard who was a damn closer when the game was on the line.

alex is far, far better when he isn't trying to be the offense and trying to star in an and-1 video.

the 3-1 fast break where he has 2 guys wide open and he gets his shot blocked said a great deal
 

Eight

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As we pick apart every aspect of every possession of every game this Frog team plays, we would do well to recall this pull quote from this morning’s Carlos Mendez PressBox DFW piece:

“The guys they have are now just 11 players, only two seniors among them, with six freshman, and only four at all who had seen a minute of Big 12 action before this year. TCU is one of just five teams in Division I (Chattanooga, Kentucky, South Dakota and UNC-Asheville) with a majority of freshman on the roster, according to the school’s sports information office.”

where is carlos getting this from?

who are the six scholarship freshmen?

frogs have 2 true scholarship freshmen on the current roster in davis and barlow

the have 3 red-shirt freshmen in mayen, rj, and samuel. all three have been in the program 2 years so they aren't new to college game and samuel would have played last year had his grades from high school not been washed out into the caribbean

as far as only 4 having played in the big 12 this year two of the biggest culprits in the big 12 play of silly decisions have been your guys who had the most minutes coming into this game

frogs played hard defensively after dixon called the early time out, davis balled his ass off, they attacked the basket in the second half instead of settling 3's and they took care of the ball most of the game.

bane as a freshman showed great game sense and we see it now with kendric. samuel has a better idea how to score on the low block than the senior and the freshmen point guard looks for him while the senior forces the shot or is passing out to bane or noi.
 

BABYFACE

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where is carlos getting this from?

who are the six scholarship freshmen?

frogs have 2 true scholarship freshmen on the current roster in davis and barlow

the have 3 red-shirt freshmen in mayen, rj, and samuel. all three have been in the program 2 years so they aren't new to college game and samuel would have played last year had his grades from high school not been washed out into the caribbean

as far as only 4 having played in the big 12 this year two of the biggest culprits in the big 12 play of silly decisions have been your guys who had the most minutes coming into this game

frogs played hard defensively after dixon called the early time out, davis balled his ass off, they attacked the basket in the second half instead of settling 3's and they took care of the ball most of the game.

bane as a freshman showed great game sense and we see it now with kendric. samuel has a better idea how to score on the low block than the senior and the freshmen point guard looks for him while the senior forces the shot or is passing out to bane or noi.

Probably counting walk on freshman Dylan Arnette. Based on his bio, I bet his on academic scholarship. Smart kid.
 

MTfrog5

Active Member
frogs need an athletic big inside to provide something from the 4
I’m hoping with Smith and Fuller possibly getting minutes we can put Noi at the 4 if he continues to work on his game down low. Noticed he’s been posting up some when a smaller guard is on him. Would love to run the pick and roll/pop with him. Samuel needs to develop a 5-10 foot baseline shot to make that ideal though.
 

Eight

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I’m hoping with Smith and Fuller possibly getting minutes we can put Noi at the 4 if he continues to work on his game down low. Noticed he’s been posting up some when a smaller guard is on him. Would love to run the pick and roll/pop with him. Samuel needs to develop a 5-10 foot baseline shot to make that ideal though.

samuel does need to add a big of range to his game and barlow can help as well, but i would like to see an athletic 4 who can take the shot from the free throw line in the pick and roll as well as being athletic enough on defense to be a shot blocker

noi is only 6'7" and in a couple of the losses we have been overwhelmed in the lane on the offensive and defensive end.
 

MTfrog5

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samuel does need to add a big of range to his game and barlow can help as well, but i would like to see an athletic 4 who can take the shot from the free throw line in the pick and roll as well as being athletic enough on defense to be a shot blocker

noi is only 6'7" and in a couple of the losses we have been overwhelmed in the lane on the offensive and defensive end.
Didn’t realize Noi was only 6’7. I take back what I said and like him at the 3. I guess they assumed McWilliams would fill the role that you’re looking for though
 

Eight

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Didn’t realize Noi was only 6’7. I take back what I said and like him at the 3. I guess they assumed McWilliams would fill the role that you’re looking for though

angus and alok. i think what get's overlooked in losing fisher and archie is the frogs lost 2 bigs as well and while they recruited 2 players who can fill the positions of jaylen and archie they have yet to add a big.
 

Armadillo

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I’m real comfortable with my initial observation. Literally zero interest in whatever it is you’re trying to do.

Well, you do have more than "zero interest" otherwise you would not have responded. Twice.

But I generally agree and appreciate your opinions. But on the few times I actually disagree, I know you'll respond.

I'm letting it die here. Respond if you want. I never mocked you. Only predicted you'd chime in when I disagreed with your opinion. Which you did. TWICE. I'm officially out of this discussion. It's all yours Moose.
 

Dogfrog

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aside from playing basketball and both being left handed i don't see the arob and ginobili comparison.

manu was an elite finisher who could go over the top of people, was a solid passer, and was very smart on the floor. he also was a small forward/ 2-guard who was a damn closer when the game was on the line.

alex is far, far better when he isn't trying to be the offense and trying to star in an and-1 video.

the 3-1 fast break where he has 2 guys wide open and he gets his shot blocked said a great deal

Potentially, and I said small Ginobili. Never said AR is MG, just think it would have been interesting to use him in multiple roles because I think he is athletic and talented enough to do that - and MG was a multi purpose player. Alex could fill in at PG when we didn’t have one but with a real PG he could have been used in multiple different ways on offense and defense.
 

CountryFrog

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Well, you do have more than "zero interest" otherwise you would not have responded. Twice.

But I generally agree and appreciate your opinions. But on the few times I actually disagree, I know you'll respond.

I'm letting it die here. Respond if you want. I never mocked you. Only predicted you'd chime in when I disagreed with your opinion. Which you did. TWICE. I'm officially out of this discussion. It's all yours Moose.
I feel like MOST people respond when someone else posts a disagreement. That's certainly not unique to Moose.
 

Eight

Member
I said small Ginobili. Never said AR is MG, just think it would have been interesting to use him in multiple roles because I think he is athletic and talented enough to do that - and MG was a multi purpose player. Alex could fill in at PG when we didn’t have one but with a real PG he could have been used in multiple different ways on offense and defense.

i think alex struggles against longer 2's in the league as he is short for a wing and his shooting from the outside makes him inconsistent enough to truly be effective.

when he plays under control and in the flow of the offense he is a damn good point guard. when he decides to be the offense, dribble side to side for 15 seconds, or make up his mind to do something regardless of how the play unfolds that is when we get the moments that are exceeding frustrating from a senior point guard
 

Dogfrog

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i think alex struggles against longer 2's in the league as he is short for a wing and his shooting from the outside makes him inconsistent enough to truly be effective.

when he plays under control and in the flow of the offense he is a damn good point guard. when he decides to be the offense, dribble side to side for 15 seconds, or make up his mind to do something regardless of how the play unfolds that is when we get the moments that are exceeding frustrating from a senior point guard

Offensively, Alex is a consistent penetrator, and passer, and finisher. He could do those things from multiple positions on the court - other than point.
 
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