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Shawn Robinson tranferring

CryptoMiner

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True but he also followed the parent that was going to the school with the best opportunity for him - almost looked like they were taking jobs more for SR than their career sometimes

His dad kind of followed him to Guyer if I remember correctly- Shawn declared he was leaving Chisholm Trail after his mom got a job at Guyer and then his dad took a job as their TE coach even though he was the OC at Chisholm.

Then when his dad got the job at DeSoto - Shawn left to be with him

So both statements can be true- that he followed his parents but also “moved to the best situation” at the same time

Interesting that his father just got a job in the AD office and won’t be the DeSoto HC anymore

His mom was the head girls BB coach at Guyer and son and dad followed her there. She then got the HC job at DeSoto and again father and son followed. Othell was an assistant at both Guyer and DeSoto. His dad is not Mike Robinson who resigned as HC at DeSoto and is now the assistant AD. Mike came from North Mesquite and is a long time HC in Texas HS and not related to Shawn.

Andrea has won state titles and is considered one of the best coaches in the state.

The comments on Shawn's HS transfers are completely misinformed. All were work related and one of the exceptions to the transfer rules but all were legit career moves for Andrea.
 

Eight

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A 4 star QB will get more chances than others.

It could have just been the system we had in place.

He will get a shot, it's up to him to make the most out of it.

shawn is no longer a 4-start recruit, he is a sophomore quarterback with 7 career starts who is transferring after a rough season and shoulder surgery.

yes, he has talents, but those talents aren't unique and won't guarantee playing time. any major program he transfers to will have other 4-STAR RECRUITS. any program he goes to will continue to recruit players at that postion.

there comes a point when you no longer get hired because of the school you attended, but instead on what you have done in your work history.

shawn is halfway through his college career and he and whomever is advising him need to sit down and ask themselves serious questions about why it did not work out at tcu to the point he felt compelled to transfer. not blaming him or giving tcu a pass, but this isn't as simple as looking at depth charts and counting on his talent to shine through.
 
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bronco

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he will have to sit a year which means he is looking not next year, but two years down the road.

show me a major program whose roster situation is that certain two years out.

Probably already been posted but he might need a year to recover from the surgery. If he redshirts next year his future here gets murky with Collins, Max and Rogers here. He may be looking for a Kenny Hill opportunity. Going to a place where the current qb has one more year and there is no one currently on campus to replace him. He gets to heal and learn and have two years of eligibility left.
 

Zubaz

Member
Once Mike got to showcase his talents there probably began some doubts with Shawn's parents on moving forward.
I'll preface this by saying all of the obligatory "like the kid" "he's a good Frog", etc. Not trying to disparage him.

I guess I just don't see what everyone else does in MC as a starting QB. He had one good quarter against a terrible defense that gave up 40 points to Kansas, lost to Kansas, scored 14 points and beat K-State on a missed XP, then he was the QB for the biggest loss of the Patterson era. That's not all on him, obviously, but...some of it kinda has to be, right? Obviously the turnover margin improvement when he came in was HUGE but....as a clear #1 going in to next year? Not sure I see that.
 

Sebastian S

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any major program he transfers to with have other 4-STAR RECRUITS. any program he goes to will continue to recruit players at that postion.

That's why I said IF he chooses wisely.

Go to a program that doesn't always get 4 star qb"s.

A program with an offense that can showcase his skills.
 

Moose Stuff

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The comments on Shawn's HS transfers are completely misinformed. All were work related and one of the exceptions to the transfer rules but all were legit career moves for Andrea.

Unless your last name is Robinson I’m pretty comfortable saying that you have no clue if this is actually true (and neither do the rest of us). You telling me she takes that job and Shawn follows her if Desoto had a bad team? No chance in hell. Her career moves may well have been 110% above board but if you think for one second that Shawn wasn’t jumping from program to program because he perceived that each stop was better than the previous then you’re kidding yourself.
 

Eight

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I'll preface this by saying all of the obligatory "like the kid" "he's a good Frog", etc. Not trying to disparage him.

I guess I just don't see what everyone else does in MC as a starting QB. He had one good quarter against a terrible defense that gave up 40 points to Kansas, lost to Kansas, scored 14 points and beat K-State on a missed XP, then he was the QB for the biggest loss of the Patterson era. That's not all on him, obviously, but...some of it kinda has to be, right? Obviously the turnover margin improvement when he came in was HUGE but....as a clear #1 going in to next year? Not sure I see that.

agree todd, there are possibilities, but as i said before there should be very few players on the offensive side of the ball who should have any degree of certainty about positions on the depth chart after this season.
 

Wexahu

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I'll preface this by saying all of the obligatory "like the kid" "he's a good Frog", etc. Not trying to disparage him.

I guess I just don't see what everyone else does in MC as a starting QB. He had one good quarter against a terrible defense that gave up 40 points to Kansas, lost to Kansas, scored 14 points and beat K-State on a missed XP, then he was the QB for the biggest loss of the Patterson era. That's not all on him, obviously, but...some of it kinda has to be, right? Obviously the turnover margin improvement when he came in was HUGE but....as a clear #1 going in to next year? Not sure I see that.

I just see him as a viable short-to-medium term option and someone who you can probably win some games with. More or less a bridge to the younger QBs behind him.
 

FrogLifeYo

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Nah. Just more of a feeling than anything. I've heard great things from some friends I trust, regarding his arm, and I just feel like his "drop foot" will be good to go by the time next season rolls around. I think he'll put in the work to get it as good as it can be, and the fact he's currently the "emergency QB" makes me think he's already close.
I’m in agreement...And I think the staff would really like him to take the reigns
 

BABYFACE

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I’m being coy because one of the two people who told me used the words “between you and I” so I’m choosing to honor that. I don’t think it’s really a big deal either though. It’s a non big 12 school, it’s in the same general region of the country as TCU, and it’s a MAJOR program. Also, just to be clear, it’s total speculation. It wasn’t stated as fact.

My guess would be Arky because it fits within the criteria you mentioned.
 

BABYFACE

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His mom was the head girls BB coach at Guyer and son and dad followed her there. She then got the HC job at DeSoto and again father and son followed. Othell was an assistant at both Guyer and DeSoto. His dad is not Mike Robinson who resigned as HC at DeSoto and is now the assistant AD. Mike came from North Mesquite and is a long time HC in Texas HS and not related to Shawn.

Andrea has won state titles and is considered one of the best coaches in the state.

The comments on Shawn's HS transfers are completely misinformed. All were work related and one of the exceptions to the transfer rules but all were legit career moves for Andrea.
His mom was supposed to be the BB coach at Brewer this year but changed her mind and stayed at Desoto.
 

BABYFACE

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I'll preface this by saying all of the obligatory "like the kid" "he's a good Frog", etc. Not trying to disparage him.

I guess I just don't see what everyone else does in MC as a starting QB. He had one good quarter against a terrible defense that gave up 40 points to Kansas, lost to Kansas, scored 14 points and beat K-State on a missed XP, then he was the QB for the biggest loss of the Patterson era. That's not all on him, obviously, but...some of it kinda has to be, right? Obviously the turnover margin improvement when he came in was HUGE but....as a clear #1 going in to next year? Not sure I see that.

Collins didn’t do anything great. He just didn’t turn the ball over repeatedly. He could also read a blitz better. The OL might have been playing it’s worst ball of the season with Collins under center.

Being a great athlete with physical gifts doesn’t mean much if you can’t protect the ball and somewhat read a defense.
 
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Uncle_Frog

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I'll preface this by saying all of the obligatory "like the kid" "he's a good Frog", etc. Not trying to disparage him.

I guess I just don't see what everyone else does in MC as a starting QB. He had one good quarter against a terrible defense that gave up 40 points to Kansas, lost to Kansas, scored 14 points and beat K-State on a missed XP, then he was the QB for the biggest loss of the Patterson era. That's not all on him, obviously, but...some of it kinda has to be, right? Obviously the turnover margin improvement when he came in was HUGE but....as a clear #1 going in to next year? Not sure I see that.

I decided to look at this when comparing P5 vs P5 with Shawn and Collins. Shawn played better teams, but he also had more players around him than Collins last two games. Regardless, I think you can give Shawn a slight curve here. Both guys played 4 full games against P5 teams this year and it's below:

Shawn
Comp %: 62%
Yards Per Game: 244
Total TDs: 5 (5 passing 0 Rushing)
Turnovers: 10 (7 INTS, 3 Lost Fumbles)
Rush YPG: 29.5
Rush YPA: 3.2

Collins
Comp %: 58%
Yards Per Game: 235
Total TDs: 7 (5 passing 2 Rushing)
Turnovers: 2 (2 INTS, 0 Lost Fumbles)
Rush YPG: 20.5
Rush YPA: 2.3

Overall, neither player was really dynamic this year but Shawn had 2 turnovers for every TD. That is just really bad and there is no way to deny it. Collins didn't light the world on fire either but he protected the ball much better and just appeared to be in better control out there.

All that said, I am bummed to see him go especially if it ended on bad terms. Seemed well-spoken and a good ambassador for TCU Football. I was probably too hard on him this year as the deficiencies on offense weren't the fault of one player--even the QB. If he stuck around I figured he would have had a good shot to start next year.
 

Eight

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Collins didn’t do anything great. He just didn’t turn the ball over repeatedly. He could also read a blitz better. The OL was playing it’s worst ball of the season with Collins under center.

Being a great athlete with physical gifts doesn’t mean much if you can’t protect the ball and somewhat read a defense.

i agree collins' biggest achievements were not making mistakes early on and making better decisions.

not sure if we can pinpoint the actual lowest point of the offensive line play this year, middle part of the year was similar to walking through intensive care unit and picking out the sickest person in the area. even the "good" games were pretty putrid.

do believe the question with mike is what he does well offset his limitations? i think we all got frustrated with what was happening with shawn for whatever reason that average appeared good.

one big reason why i hope frogs have multiple quarterbacks physically capable of competing this spring.
 
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