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Just Facts: Patterson vs. Briles/Baylor

Sundance Frog

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I post very rarely. And, when I do, I post facts. Here's some facts.

1. College Head Coaching Tenure and Records



Patterson: TCU 2001-2017 (17th year)

W/L record: 155-54 (as of 10-14-2017)

Winning percentage: 74.162% (155 divided by 209 total games)

Number 12+ win Seasons: 3 (2009, 2010, 2014)

Number 10+ win Seasons: 10

  • 2002, 10-2

  • 2003, 11-2

  • 2005, 11-1

  • 2006, 11-2

  • 2008, 11-2

  • 2009, 12-1

  • 2010, 13-0

  • 2011, 11-2

  • 2014, 12-1

  • 2015, 11-2

Briles: Houston 2003-2007 (5 years)

Baylor: 2008-2015 (8 years)

  • W/L record: 99-65 (as of his firing in Spring 2016)

  • Winning percentage: 60.365% (99 divided by 164 total games)

  • Number 12+ win Seasons: 0

  • Number 10+ win Seasons: 5

    • 2006, 10-4

    • 2011, 10-3

    • 2013, 11-2

    • 2014, 11-2

    • 2015, 10-3

Big 12 Records Only: (Total record, and each coach’s first 5.5 years in Big 12)

Patterson: TCU (2012 to “as of” 10-14-2017, date of this analysis)

Overall: 46-24, 65.714% (46 wins divided by 70 total games).

First 5.5 years: 46-24, 65.714% (includes first 6 games of 2017)


Briles: Baylor 2008-2015 (as of his firing Spring 2016)

Overall: 65-37, 63.725% (65 wins divided by 102 total games)

First 5.5 years: 39-30, 56.521% (includes first 6 games of 2013)


Patterson vs. Baylor OverAll: Patterson: 6-3

2006: TCU won: 17-7 (in Waco) - Morriss

2007: TCU won: 27-0 (in FW) - Morriss

2010: TCU won: 45-10 (in FW) - Briles

2011: Baylor won: 50-48 (in Waco) - Briles

2012: TCU won: 49-21 (in Waco) - Briles

2013: Baylor won: 41-38 (in FW) - Briles

2014: Baylor won: 61-58 (in Waco) - Briles

2015: TCU won: 28-21 2OT (in FW) - Briles

2016: TCU won: 62-22 (in Waco) - Grobe


Patterson vs. Baylor Big 12: Patterson 3-2


2012: TCU won: 49-21 (in Waco) - Briles

2013: Baylor won: 41-38 (in FW) - Briles

2014: Baylor won: 61-58 (in Waco) - Briles

2015: TCU won: 28-21 2OT (in FW) - Briles

2016: TCU won: 62-22 (in Waco) - Grobe


Patterson vs. Briles Overall: Patterson 5-3

2003: TCU won: 62-55 (in Houston - Briles Houston)

2004: TCU won: 34-27 (in FW - Briles Houston)

2010: TCU won: 45-10 (in FW)

2011: Baylor won: 50-48 (in Waco)

2012: TCU won: 49-21 (in Waco, TCU had to go to Waco 2 years in a row)

2013: Baylor won: 41-38 (in FW)

2014: Baylor won: 61-58 (in Waco)

2015: TCU won: 28-21 2OT (in FW)


Patterson vs. Briles Total Points Overall:

Note: This analysis totals all points for both Patterson and Briles in all of their head-to-head match-ups (see Patterson vs. Briles Overall above).

Patterson total points vs. Briles: 62+34+45+48+49+38+58+28 = 362
Briles total points vs. Patterson: 55+27+10+50+21+41+61+21 = 286

Summary: Patterson’s Teams outscored Briles’ Teams by 76 points. However, it has always been alleged that Briles was the master offensive points generator. This misconception does not hold against Patterson. This is true even when restricting the analysis to Big 12-only games, in the years 2012 to 2015. In these Big 12 head-to-head games, Patterson’s Frogs outscored Briles’ Bears 173 to 144, for a Patterson advantage of 29 points.

2. Ranking Finishes as Head Coach

Patterson:

Top 5: 2

2010: TCU, 2 in AP, 2 in Coaches

2014: TCU, 3 in AP, 3 in Coaches

Top 10: 6 (includes all above)

2005: TCU, 9 in Coaches (Note: 11 in AP)

2008: TCU, 7 in AP, 7 in Coaches

2009: TCU, 6 in AP, 6 in Coaches

2010: TCU, 2 in AP, 2 in Coaches

2014: TCU, 3 in AP, 3 in Coaches

2015: TCU, 7 in AP, 7 in Coaches

Top 25: 11 (includes all above)

2000: TCU: 21 in AP, 18 in Coaches

2002: TCU: 23 in AP, 22 in Coaches

2003: TCU, 25 in AP, 24 in Coaches

2005: TCU, 11 in AP, 9 in Coaches

2006: TCU, 22 in AP, 21 in Coaches

2008: TCU, 7 in AP, 7 in Coaches

2009: TCU, 6 in AP, 6 in Coaches

2010: TCU, 2 in AP, 2 in Coaches

2011: TCU, 14 in AP, 13 in Coaches

2014: TCU, 3 in AP, 3 in Coaches

2015: TCU, 7 in AP, 7 in Coaches



Briles:

Top 5: 0

Top 10: 1

2014: Baylor, 7 in AP, 8 in Coaches

Top 25: 4 (includes all above)

2011: Baylor, 13 in AP, 12 in Coaches

2013: Baylor, 13 in AP, 13 in Coaches

2014: Baylor, 7 in AP, 8 in Coaches

2015: Baylor, 13 in AP, 13 in Coaches


3. Conference Championships

Patterson: 6

1 C-USA: 2002

4 MWC: 2005, 2009, 2010, 2011

1 Big 12: 2014


Briles: 3

1 C-USA: 2006

2 Big 12: 2013, 2014


4. Bowl Appearances and Wins
Patterson: 15

W/L record: 9-6, 60% (9 divided by 15)

Briles: 9

W/L record: 3-6, 33.33% (3 divided by 9) (not including 2007 Texas Bowl)

Note: Briles’ 2007 Houston team went to Texas Bowl, but Briles resigned before that game was played, and went to Baylor. This 2007 Houston Team lost that bowl game to Patterson’s TCU team.


5. Major College Coaching Awards
Patterson: 21 (maybe more, but could find any more)


  • 2014 Big 12 Coach of the Year

  • 2014 AFCA National Coach of the Year

  • 2009 AFCA National Coach of the Year

  • 2014 AP Coach of the Year

  • 2009 AP Coach of the Year

  • 2009 Bobby Dodd Coach of the Year

  • 2014 Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year

  • 2009 Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year

  • 2009 George Munger Award

  • 2009 Liberty Mutual Coach of the Year

  • 2014 Sporting News (SN) Coach of the Year

  • 2009 Sporting News (SN) Coach of the Year

  • 2014 Walter Camp Coach of the Year

  • 2009 Walter Camp Coach of the Year

  • 2014 Woody Hayes Trophy

  • 2009 Woody Hayes Trophy

  • 2014 Home Depot Coach of the Year

  • 2014 Paul “Bear” Bryant Award

  • 2009 Mountain West (MWC) Coach of the Year

  • 2005 Mountain West (MWC) Coach of the Year

  • 2002 C-USA Coach of the Year

  • NOTE: finalist on various awards lists not included


Briles: 4 (No recognized national coach-of-the-year awards)


  • 2013 Big 12 Coach of the Year

  • 2010 AFCA Region 4 Coach of the Year (not to be confused with the AFCA National Coach of the Year, which was awarded to Chip Kelly of Oregon in 2010)

  • 2006 Conference USA Coach of the Year

  • 2006 Sportexe Division 1-A Coach of the Year (not a major recognized award, but is included on Briles’ profile; an award presented by the field-turf company Sportexe, Round Rock, Texas)

  • NOTE: finalist on various awards lists not included
 

Chongo94

Active Member
Just wondering if you read something that made you want to do the research. Or if you had an argument with a Baylor dork who told you Baylor dominated TCU durin the Briles years. They do that quite often. It's funny.

Yes, I'm surprised many don't have 61-58 tattooed somewhere on their bodies. I know I know, baptists aren't supposed to like tattoos but they're not supposed to like rape either.
 

matmoo123

Full Member
Appears we chose correctly, or is the jury still out. In fairness, you didn’t have a category for Columbian level drug cartels.
 

finafrog

Full Member
your "facts" are invalid as everyone knows that football did not start until 2012. please revise and repost.

can you post any facts about the future of those two coaches?
 
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Way of the Frog

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