OT...he never saw it coming
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Deep Purple
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Little of both, as far as I can see.
Bob
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No, but you have to screw upside down.
Horned Toad
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Libertarian politics is to stay out of my back pocket and my bedroom which I agree with. There are some that are isolationist.
Sticky_Wicket
Purple Baylor Alum
And to think, I was stoked when I hit my first 1000m static target
TooColdU
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If we had really practiced isolationism, then we wouldn't have gotten "dragged" into those wars.
U.S. isolationism ended with Theodore Roosevelt as president in the Spanish-American war. Wilson pretended to practice it until after he got reelected.
And to your second point...You must be forgetting all of the fallen soldiers whose lives might have been saved had we not decided to involve ourselves in the quarrels of countries on the other side of the world.
Vietnam and Korea are prime examples.
I'm sure their families could've benefited from their survival.
Hell, even the survivors might've been spared one of their limbs and/or a bit of their sanity had they not experienced that.
Hoosierfrog
Tier 1
Except that perhaps you forgot that WW II came to us. I suppose we should have just let that little issue at Pearl Harbor go by without comment?
Chongo94
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Would y'all kindly stop turning this cool, amazing, almost unreal shot into a political thread, thanks.
netty2424
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Still a helluva shot.
ShadowFrog
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RollToad
Baylor is Trash.
Wait until he's dropping a deuce for Allah.
Ron Swanson
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I shot a hog at 420 yards once. Hit him right where I was aiming, ran about 40 yards.
Purp
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We're you shooting a Mark 19?
Deep Purple
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Good gawd, how you could you be so historically wrong on so many counts?
- The US did not enter the Spanish-American War under President Teddy Roosevelt, because Roosevelt didn't succeed to the presidency until 1901, three years after the war ended.. William McKinley was president, and -- lest you forget -- Teddy Roosevelt resigned as Secretary of the Navy and volunteered for service in Cuba as second-in-command of the US 1st Volunteer Cavalry, the "Rough Riders."
- Far from "pretending" to keep us out of WWI, Woodrow Wilson (under great criticism from certain quarters of Congress, the public, and the press) ignored or overlooked German offenses against the United States or American citizens for 2-1/2 year to keep us neutral
- He took no action when Germany implemented unrestricted submarine warfare in 1915, resulting in the sinking of the Lusitania and the loss of 128 American lives.
- He did nothing when German agents sabotaged and destroyed the American munitions depot on Black Tom Island in New York harbor in 1916, damaging the Statue of Liberty in the process.
- Wilson finally called for the US to enter the war in 1917 for two reasons:
- Departing from their previous policy of targeting only British or Allied ships (in which American lives might be lost), the Germans initiated a new policy of specifically targeting US merchant and passenger ships, officially a neutral nation.
- While the United States was still neutral, the German Foreign Secretary, Arthur Zimmerman, telegraphed the Mexican government an offer for a military alliance against the US. They proposed that Mexico invade the US from the south to retake Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona, with the German government financing the military expedition. Mexico actually seriously considered the offer before rejecting it. However, the British intercepted and decoded the telegram. When they revealed it to the US government and it hit the press, American public opinion turned on a dime. From being predominantly pacifist and isolationist, the majority of the American public turned militant and clamored for war with Germany.
